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nav06mr Oct 29, 2011 07:50 PM

Help me make a shopping list for easy power from my stock IX
 
So I've been driving at bone stock for over a year now and I think it's finally time to start cranking up the juice. So if you were doing it over again, what would you do to get some easy power? I can do the small things myself, but I don't have a good workspace, so big jobs will go to one of the local shops (Works, SpeedElement, GST). I'm kinda tired of breaking my back working on cars, so I'm looking for reliable ready-to-go solutions.

I don't daily drive my car, it's just a weekend cruiser and (very) occasional track day car.

I like the power packages that Buschur and Works offer... at least based on the marketing copy. I'm thinking I want to keep it under $5000 or so, and I'd like to stay on the stock turbo. I'm not looking for anything outrageous, 350whp or so should be fine.

So, I figure I need...
- clutch (ACT HDSD should be enough right? Both ACT and Exedy seem to have complaints on this forum)
- LICP
- o2 housing
- Walbro 255
- injectors?
- some kind of exhaust - I really really want something quiet, maybe works stealth?
- MBC or boost pill or something
- tune
- ported exhaust manifold?
- wideband
- some kind of intake solution... drop in should be enough?
- do I need cams to get to 350?
- spoolinup COPs?

I'm in California, so I'm stuck with 91 octane. Also I'd really like to pass CA smog legitimately. It'd be friggin awesome if I could make reasonably good power on the stock exhaust.

I figure I'll do this all at the same time as my 60k service, so there'll be a new timing belt and spark plugs and whatnot.

Is there anything obvious I'm missing?

edit:
yes, I've looked at
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-100-time.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...g-dummies.html

I figured I'd try to get some advice on my specific situation

btownsoccer22 Oct 29, 2011 08:00 PM

-You shouldn't need a new clutch
-In my opinion you don't really need injectors either
-Don't really need the spoolinup COP either

The rest of your mod list looks good. I would throw in a FMIC though.

nav06mr Oct 29, 2011 08:03 PM

Thanks. I only mention the spoolinups because they claim to make to improve idle and partial throttle jerk and that kind of stuff. Those things are kind of annoying about the stock evo.

killerpenguin21 Oct 29, 2011 09:38 PM

I've never run 91oct since I'm on the east coast, but on 91 with a good tune and a friendly dyno
I think you could have a very good car with intake/exhaust/02 housing/fmic/licp and a fuel pump.

On 93 pump I make 350whp and 330 ft lbs consistently on just shy of 24 psi using virtual dyno with the above mods minus an o2 housing. Mivec does wonders.

I picked up a spark tech for the exact reasons you mentioned and definitely noticed a nice change in drivability, that combined with low end portion of a jam mivec map and my car is very good off boost around town.

etuhs Oct 29, 2011 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by nav06mr (Post 9708288)
- do I need cams to get to 350?

No.

golgo13 Oct 29, 2011 10:51 PM

Hello and grats on wanting to start modding your car!

I'm local and we've got a much more local forum if you want to attend meets etc:

http://evoempire.org/community/

You won't hit 350whp if you keep the car CARB legal, keep that in mind.

:fire:

etuhs Oct 30, 2011 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by golgo13 (Post 9708477)
You won't hit 350whp if you keep the car CARB legal, keep that in mind.

Good to know in California especially, they gave me a ticket for my exhaust literally at the border on my way down to AZ... {thumbdwn}

nav06mr Oct 30, 2011 12:33 AM


Originally Posted by golgo13 (Post 9708477)
You won't hit 350whp if you keep the car CARB legal, keep that in mind.

You mean it won't be "officially" CARB legal (like certified with an E.O number) or you mean it won't pass a normal smog check?

golgo13 Oct 30, 2011 12:34 AM

I've already played that game, no fun.

It was my own fault for having a bright yellow integra and a ricer greddy exhaust.

Never again! All my mods are stealth in appearance... like this:

http://store.worksmotorsports.com/v/...140.502-2T.jpg

http://store.worksmotorsports.com/WO..._p/140.502.htm

nav06mr Oct 30, 2011 05:14 PM

Can anyone offer some insight on why Buschur and Works' power package kits come with cams, yet only deliver 350-ish crank HP?

golgo13 Oct 30, 2011 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by nav06mr (Post 9709697)
Can anyone offer some insight on why Buschur and Works' power package kits come with cams, yet only deliver 350-ish crank HP?

List what's in the various kits and I can give you a decent breakdown on a loose power-to-part ratio.

nav06mr Oct 31, 2011 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by golgo13 (Post 9709871)
List what's in the various kits and I can give you a decent breakdown on a loose power-to-part ratio.

The WORKS TR-340 includes:
-WORKS Brain Flash P2 ECU upgrade properly tuned for optimum drivability and performance
-WORKS High-Flow drop-in air filter
-WORKS Aperture bored throttle body
-WORKS 269 Power Cams* (Cosworth cams* for EVO IX applications)
-WORKS Exhale 76mm thermal coated DP (Downpipe)
-WORKS Exhale 76mm resonated IP (Intermediate Pipe)
-WORKS Exhale 76mm ABM (Axle Back Muffler)
Claims 360hp on an Evo IX... I'm pretty sure this is crank hp, but I can't remember where I read that

Buschur Pure Power Package:
-Your choice of Cam Shafts
-BR Air Filter Kit
-BR Full 3" Turboback exhaust
-BR Inline Manual Boost Controller
-Walbro 255lph fuel pump
-ECU Reflash
They say "This package will produce a solid 330+whp on an AWD dyno"

Smoochdarling Oct 31, 2011 01:01 AM

Getting the ECU tuned would be #1 on my list, a more efficiently controlled engine will benefit you in more ways than one.

mirkendargen Oct 31, 2011 01:07 AM

Is E85 an option at all? 350 will be no problem at all if so. Without it, you would likely need cams I think. Do CA emissions have a sniff test or just an ODBII plugin? If it's just the plugin, no problem at all. If you're worried about police attention, you might want to look for intakes/exhausts that are CARB certified. There are a few I think,

llDemonll Oct 31, 2011 07:44 AM

i have

3" downpipe, resonated test pipe, 3" catback
LICP
hallman MBC
perrin intake kit (filter and tube)

i made 340whp/300ft-lb on 92 octane, just to give a frame of reference


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