2005 MR HIDS vs GSR non-HIDS
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Originally Posted by drummerjun
The HID projectors used in the Evo's are made by Stanley, which is also the company that makes projectors for the ones used in Acura TSX; and the co-manufacturer of the projectors used in Honda S2000 (Kioto/Stanley).
The Evo projectors are one of the most wanted projectors within the HID-retrofiting community for its colorful prettyful beautiful sexy cutoff band and the very very very clear lenses, hence great illumination.
While others may prefer sharper cutoff line, smaller cutoff band and wider beam pattern, these people go with the S2000 projectors.
Pix illustration:
1. red = cutoff band, yellow = cutoff line (Evo)
2. Evo projectors, i'm sure most of u r familiar with this light pattern.
3. S2000 beam pattern. Notice the dull, yet much sharper cutoff, and wider light output.
The Evo projectors are one of the most wanted projectors within the HID-retrofiting community for its colorful prettyful beautiful sexy cutoff band and the very very very clear lenses, hence great illumination.
While others may prefer sharper cutoff line, smaller cutoff band and wider beam pattern, these people go with the S2000 projectors.
Pix illustration:
1. red = cutoff band, yellow = cutoff line (Evo)
2. Evo projectors, i'm sure most of u r familiar with this light pattern.
3. S2000 beam pattern. Notice the dull, yet much sharper cutoff, and wider light output.
Originally Posted by MaxR
would 03 gsr hid's and balast go in an 05 gsr? is the wiring the same? would an 05 gsr halogen setup install in an 03 gsr without hacking the wiring?
A bit of stripping/cutting the wires is def necessary.
Originally Posted by RS2
Try this link
http://www.hid-online.com/hidonline/sitemap.htm
Contact them if you don't know which kit you need for the EVO
I think it's this
http://www.hid-online.com/hidonline/...9006_6000k.htm
http://www.hid-online.com/hidonline/sitemap.htm
Contact them if you don't know which kit you need for the EVO
I think it's this
http://www.hid-online.com/hidonline/...9006_6000k.htm
Anyway, even though they do use OEM ballasts, $600 is too expensive for a rebased kit.
For $600, instead of buying a rebased kit and use it with the halogen projectors, you could easily get the whole set (D2S bulbs + LVQ212 ballasts + evo hid projectors)
Not that HID->halogen projectors isn't good, it just won't be as good as HID-> HID projectors. There'll be slight-to-moderate bleeding, and less sharp cutoff and less light intensity, due to different optics between xenon and halogen light beams.
Originally Posted by erikgj
I have an HID equiped Evo and a Non-HID evo. Not that big of difference. More of a mid-day vs. early afternoon difference.
halogen applications can still give great light output if the right projectors are used. ie. Valeo H7.
HID's are much better for it's longer lifespan, more light intensity and of course the thing that started the whole purple-bulb trend: the colorful cutoff band (projector applications only) caused by the cutoff shield to prevent blinding oncoming drivers.
Last edited by drummerjun; Nov 17, 2004 at 12:28 PM.
Originally Posted by drummerjun
All ballasts and bulbs are compatible as long as they are OEM equipments (Philips, Osram, Mitsubishi, Bosch, Hella, etc)
A bit of stripping/cutting the wires is def necessary.
So the new evo's use 9006 for non-HID applications?
Anyway, even though they do use OEM ballasts, $600 is too expensive for a rebased kit.
For $600, instead of buying a rebased kit and use it with the halogen projectors, you could easily get the whole set (D2S bulbs + LVQ212 ballasts + evo hid projectors)
Not that HID->halogen projectors isn't good, it just won't be as good as HID-> HID projectors. There'll be slight-to-moderate bleeding, and less sharp cutoff and less light intensity, due to different optics between xenon and halogen light beams.
man arn't you living the life...
halogen applications can still give great light output if the right projectors are used. ie. Valeo H7.
HID's are much better for it's longer lifespan, more light intensity and of course the thing that started the whole purple-bulb trend: the colorful cutoff band (projector applications only) caused by the cutoff shield to prevent blinding oncoming drivers.
A bit of stripping/cutting the wires is def necessary.
So the new evo's use 9006 for non-HID applications?
Anyway, even though they do use OEM ballasts, $600 is too expensive for a rebased kit.
For $600, instead of buying a rebased kit and use it with the halogen projectors, you could easily get the whole set (D2S bulbs + LVQ212 ballasts + evo hid projectors)
Not that HID->halogen projectors isn't good, it just won't be as good as HID-> HID projectors. There'll be slight-to-moderate bleeding, and less sharp cutoff and less light intensity, due to different optics between xenon and halogen light beams.
man arn't you living the life...
halogen applications can still give great light output if the right projectors are used. ie. Valeo H7.
HID's are much better for it's longer lifespan, more light intensity and of course the thing that started the whole purple-bulb trend: the colorful cutoff band (projector applications only) caused by the cutoff shield to prevent blinding oncoming drivers.
Not rain on your parade but what is the point?
Originally Posted by MaxR
would 03 gsr hid's and balast go in an 05 gsr? is the wiring the same? would an 05 gsr halogen setup install in an 03 gsr without hacking the wiring?
This is the question I have not seen a detailed answer for. I'd get rid of my HID's for some halogens in a second if it was a direct plug in.
hmmm... i've sat in both, my 2k5 that doesn't have HIDs and a 2k3 that does and I didn't even notice it from the driver's seat. I actually forgot until I got back out of my friend's car. The only advantage is that you're easier to spot, but considering the wing in the back, i'd rather try and not stick out even more while driving around at night.
it can't be a direct plug in, since the bulb for the HID is a lot longer than the H1 or whatever the bulb they use.
Need to mount the ballast onto the back of the headlight as well, I'm sure it's got a different design.
Need to mount the ballast onto the back of the headlight as well, I'm sure it's got a different design.
Originally Posted by plokivos
it can't be a direct plug in, since the bulb for the HID is a lot longer than the H1 or whatever the bulb they use.
Need to mount the ballast onto the back of the headlight as well, I'm sure it's got a different design.
Need to mount the ballast onto the back of the headlight as well, I'm sure it's got a different design.
I'm wondering about a direct plug in for me going from HID to not HID. I dont care about the other way.
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HB4 (9006)
HB4 (9006)
Originally Posted by drummerjun
So the new evo's use 9006 for non-HID applications?
Anyway, even though they do use OEM ballasts, $600 is too expensive for a rebased kit.
For $600, instead of buying a rebased kit and use it with the halogen projectors, you could easily get the whole set (D2S bulbs + LVQ212 ballasts + evo hid projectors)
Not that HID->halogen projectors isn't good, it just won't be as good as HID-> HID projectors. There'll be slight-to-moderate bleeding, and less sharp cutoff and less light intensity, due to different optics between xenon and halogen light beams.
man arn't you living the life...
halogen applications can still give great light output if the right projectors are used. ie. Valeo H7.
HID's are much better for it's longer lifespan, more light intensity and of course the thing that started the whole purple-bulb trend: the colorful cutoff band (projector applications only) caused by the cutoff shield to prevent blinding oncoming drivers.
Anyway, even though they do use OEM ballasts, $600 is too expensive for a rebased kit.
For $600, instead of buying a rebased kit and use it with the halogen projectors, you could easily get the whole set (D2S bulbs + LVQ212 ballasts + evo hid projectors)
Not that HID->halogen projectors isn't good, it just won't be as good as HID-> HID projectors. There'll be slight-to-moderate bleeding, and less sharp cutoff and less light intensity, due to different optics between xenon and halogen light beams.
man arn't you living the life...
halogen applications can still give great light output if the right projectors are used. ie. Valeo H7.
HID's are much better for it's longer lifespan, more light intensity and of course the thing that started the whole purple-bulb trend: the colorful cutoff band (projector applications only) caused by the cutoff shield to prevent blinding oncoming drivers.
