^You use more quotation marks than anybody I've seen!

I agree with your points, though. Variable cam phasing and cam switchover should benefit turbocharged motors as much or better than NA motors.

 

well, considering it's sorta hard to find a balance between having a good turbo engine and having a very good variable valve engine, I would rather take a good turbo engine over variable valve engine.

What's the point of having the variable valve engine when your compression ratio is 8:1?

usually the variable valve engine compression ratio is 11:1 or higher.

 

the car you just explained would cost over 80k from the factory.

 

1) The 4g6x is nearing the end of its production cyle like the 4g9x engine block. Amongst the two blocks, the 4g63 is the crowning jewel. Why make a 2.5 liter? Mitsu has already made a solid 2.4 liter in the 4g64. It would cost more for Mitsu to retool its factory to create a new block, crank, and conrods. Besides, bigger displacement equates to lower RPM. You're going to hear an ear full of complaints from future Evo owners having a redline at 6500 rpm.

Mitsu wants to SAVE money, not dumping more money into R&D. There is still red ink for Mitsu, and people really should stop believing that selling more Evos will pull Mitsu into black ink. Selling more regular lancers, 3g eclipses, and the modern galants is the key.

Basically, does GM depend on the the Vette to make money? How about Ford gambling all of its future on the 'stang? Oh no, will the Viper save Chrysler?

2) I don't believe in gimmicky valvetrain. Only H&A have accomplished this w/ performance and MPG. When I look at Porsche version of their gimmicky valvetrain, I don't see them getting +24 MPG w/ all that power.

3) Is it some sort of version on the cyclone intake mani? Otherwise, I'm not fond of it.

4) Mitsu wants to save money. If people want that option, expect the dealership to rape you. Don't be naive that the dealership is beyond such action.

5) Where were all the clutch complaints for those Evo 4 to 6 TME? More cost!!

6) Exhaust is set to US federal mandate for noise and smog. If it was any more free, the Evo would be disallowed to be sold in Cali. Cali is a big state not to sell Evos.

7) Under 3000 lbs for the Evo . . . not going to happen w/ AWD and all sort of techno whiz-bang tranny stuff. Turn it FWD, you'll make it. I can already hear complaints from future FWD Evo owners.

8) There is no REAL Ralliart distributor in the US, so it's a moot point. Again, you are asking Mitsu to cater to a niche market. It has been proven over and over in the US market that niche market cars cannot be supported in sales volume. There is a reason why all car manufacturers have a demographic study. Sure, Japan can sell 10 different version of the FTO. Do that in America . . . you have doomed the car line. Look in the 80's when GM made a bunch of cookie-cutting cars . . . Ford and Honda started to carve out GM's arrogance.

9) I don't know that issue.

10) 350 HP and 450 HP . . . see cost skyrocketing past a 3KGT VR4 drop top beyond the $42,000 mark.


Basically, you're asking Mitsu to repeat what most JApanese supercars in the mid 90's did to the C4 vette. They whiped the aging vette in form, performance, and techno gadgets. It rattled GM brass enough to consider killing the vette, but they played waiting game on the fad. Then, the japanese supercars gained more weight, techno gadgets, and priced itself RIGHT OUT of the vette range. In the end, GM won while the Rx-7, Supra, and the 3KGT VR4 died from the lack of sales.


As for the Vette changing its block, it has been coming for a long time. GM has made SO MUCH money from the LT block for so long that it was cost effective for them to create the LS1 block. Also, like the other Big 2, GM makes even more money from selling crate engines. <itsu has no luxury of selling crate motors, but honda has done so to a certain extent w/ the b-series block.

As for bigger displacement, all American motors whether V6's or 8's have a potential to have a bigger bore and stroke, because engineers designed it to be so. It's not beyong the Big 3 to create any V8's beyond 7 liter.

Look at Mitsu creating the starions's 2.6 liter . . . was it ever used again? How long did porsche have their 3.0 liter 4-bangers last from the 944 to 968? Not long. Big displacement 4-bangers aren't cost effective, nor low displacement 6-bangers.

 

Why am I the only kid on this board who has a brain (15 going 16 if anyone is curious )? To make this sound like constructive criticism and not flame the **** out of you, Mitsubishi did this. It's called the Mitshubishievo Lancer Evolution MR FQ-400. It costs 80 thousand dollars. End of story.

 

80 grand would be a luxury car Evo w/ 450 HP . . . why not battle the heavyweight BMW's and Mercedes? Besides the humor, no japanese automakers are willing to go battle the luxury sedan in the +60 grand range.

Also, how many people believe there are more Evo's on the road than the 3g eclipse GT or GTS? Therefore, Evos will not save Mitsu from red ink?

 

This Thread Is Stupid Mods Close It!!!!

 

You seem to live in America.......That is sold only in the UK . Good luck getting one.

 

My bad.....I misunderstood you at first.

 

just imagine the headache of broken engines with variable cam gears? not everyone could tune this right or would they have the equipement standard on the car.

By the way, the clutch isn't bad, it's just made so it wont kill the tranny and it's balanced between holding power and streetability as well as longevity.

So its a compromise that's understandable by mitsubishi.

Only thing I would wish for is the

standard Boost gauge,
standard EGT gauge,
standard Oil pressure gauge,
bigger Intercooler,
electro-luminescent tech gauges (like STI)
lower profile (springs)
better Air conditioning switches (that wont get stuck in the middle part)
better trunk carpet and that POS MDF floor
better fitting of the ceiling, A pillar, B pillar cover (so it wont squeek)
optional navigation system

All this without raising a penny on the MSRP.

If they could improve upon this, I would buy this car again despite how horrid mitsu service dealerships and warranty policy is.

By the way, nobody's gonna buy a $80,000 compact sedan made by mitsubishi in America. You have too much of a competition here for that to happen. Well, somebodies gonna buy it, but they're fools, since you could get a better result with 1/8 of that money.