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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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that gauge-tech thing is cool looks like it might be hard to read while driving but it is a good little device for sure.

ok so let me see if I understand this ECU+ and its features...

it connects to your current ECU like a piggyback chip
it measures a/f and boost pressure as well as the 02 sensors (making etg not needed)
its able to be configured to optimize your current mods and upload maps to it.
its half the price of the AEM (always a good thing)
and it gives you your 1/4 mile and 0-60 speed reasonably accurately

is all this correct? if so sounds like this might be the best thing for me then I would just need a turbo timer maybe I can build that into my ash tray or somethin and I will just deal with the radar detector as I have been the last 3 years.

Also thank you guys for the info on the AEM EMS sounds like a very good product but as stated I'm not sure if I really need all its tuning potencial as my car will probably never achieve more than 350whp it might just be overkill for my daily driver needs.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sentinal
that gauge-tech thing is cool looks like it might be hard to read while driving but it is a good little device for sure.

ok so let me see if I understand this ECU+ and its features...

it connects to your current ECU like a piggyback chip
it measures a/f and boost pressure as well as the 02 sensors (making etg not needed)
its able to be configured to optimize your current mods and upload maps to it.
its half the price of the AEM (always a good thing)
and it gives you your 1/4 mile and 0-60 speed reasonably accurately

is all this correct? if so sounds like this might be the best thing for me then I would just need a turbo timer maybe I can build that into my ash tray or somethin and I will just deal with the radar detector as I have been the last 3 years.

Also thank you guys for the info on the AEM EMS sounds like a very good product but as stated I'm not sure if I really need all its tuning potencial as my car will probably never achieve more than 350whp it might just be overkill for my daily driver needs.
you fail to emphasize the most imporant thing, it's a piggyback, which means it's limited by the stock ecu, which means it's limited to maf, which means it's half the price of aem and way too damn expensive for what it is.

if you want a piggyback, why mess around with one that has all these bells and whistles? just get an apexi safc and an egt gauge with probe. tune it until your egts are steadily 890 degrees... done. what do you need the whole mess of other stuff for (besides boost gauge)? cuz honstly the day you need to change that thing out, you're gonna have to go back to gauges or gonna have to upgrade to REAL sensors.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 09:50 PM
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all the "bells and whisles" is what I was originally going for I don't want to use a million different devices.
You mentioned upgrading to REAL sensors are you saying that the sensors on the ECU+ are not going to be acurate when giving boost a/f or temp readings?
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 10:05 PM
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oh well... if you're not lookin' to upgrade further from this then i guess this guy tryinna make a buck is lookin' for customer just like you. but if you plan on upgrading further in the future definitely consider this (just tryinna save you money). i say that the sensors will be no good because when you switch to any self respecting stand alone such as power fc, hks pfcon or aem ems they take sensors that are more accurate. stock o2 sensor is scrapped for a wideband, a big cost! stock boost sensor/solenoids are switched for the more accurate 3.5 or 5 bar boost sensors offered by many different companies (same goes for wideband o2, not just aem uego on the market, i mentioned the one zeitronix uses, has a much wider range).

see these two sensors alone cost a lot (btw if you buy the zeitronix you can run the apexi afc off it, it gives you ALL the tuning info, data, logging and gauging you need all in one unit, it was disgned for this! and then if you want to upgrade to the aem later, you can keep teh zeitronix and it will be perfect just the same cuz it already uses the GOOD sensors. comes in one compact unit that's real easy to read and isn't your typical sweeping gauge kinda look, which may be desireable. ok this was a shameless plug, but seriously... it's a well thought out product and it's been in the dsm community for years.)

but if you're not lookin' to get a big turbo or anything, then get something that effectively maxes out your needs.

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