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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 10:14 PM
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lol 40k guess what j spec i'm coming

fuq the american detuned half *** evo

but turst me 40k their will still sold at the 5k evo

cuz many dealer still do it at msrp

only these greddy *** ***** fuq who gotta jack the price up
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 10:59 PM
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Yeah, this has been mentioned in other threads. What dealsersips sell the car for has no relation to MMC's costs. If they want to charge you 10 billion dollars for a car they can do it. Whether people will buy it is another issue altogether though. If they want to sell it to you for a dollar and eat the loss, they can do it. It's all down to what the dealerships want. Plain and simple, if you don't like it then try another dealership.

MMC gets paid the same regardless. I don't see why it would be any of their concern.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 11:35 PM
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Their concern would be if the evo's didn't sell, that means they get no money since the evo's didn't sell....but oh well whatever

for 40K you can just import the VII from EI
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 11:57 PM
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I'm in Canada so the Evo 8 isn't even coming but I talked to my local dealer and he said that they can't just charge whatever price they want just becuz it's limited. Just a suggestion but you guys may want to send an e-mail to MMC head office and give them the dealer names and tell them what's going on. Although technically the dealers are independant and pay MMC for the cars, they still carry the logo and name of MMC, therefor still has a say (to some extent) of what goes on.
It's at least worth a shot.... There are 5000 coming to the US from what i've heard. I've wanted one of these cars for years but if my dealer told me that i'd ask him for directions to the suburu dealer to buy an STI Sounds like B.S. to me.
Nitrohead....u are 17? Have any ideas on how much u are going to pay for insurance? I'm 23 and working full time....i'm not even sure I can afford this car.....i can hardly afford to pay attention.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 12:03 AM
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i bet the markups on the sti will be just as bad what kind of numbers are they talkn for the amount of cars/price?
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 12:41 AM
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at wrximprezasti.com they have a list of dealers who will give you the sti at msrp. in so Cal, subaru of irvine sent them an email telling them about the msrp deal. seems genuine.

i wonder if our msrp list is good. are the dealers listed there gonna honor msrp for the evos???
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 12:52 AM
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Actually ordering a car is fine just do it correctly, meaning.
1. Money down to make valid make refundable.
2. Which make, model, and number what on list?
3. Conditons and pricing.
4. Most importantly a Manager's signature with your's to seal the contract.

This topic was discussed long ago to reserve a car correctly so the dealer will not screw you.
For my case the manager's signature didn't mean jack **** to them. Cuz on my copy of the deposit sheet, it says under $35K, and the manager signed it. But, when they called me, they said they made a mistake, and the price should be $40K. Good thing my deposit is fully refundable, they only swiped my credit card, didn't actually charge it.

I think the most important thing is to find a dealer that you've dealt with before and whom you could trust.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 12:56 AM
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I think you could fight that one pretty easily if you wanted, ReHeat. Probably more trouble than it's worth, but I think you've got enough paperwork to show they're not taking a loss and that they agreed to it.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 01:03 AM
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Originally posted by HobieKopek
I think you could fight that one pretty easily if you wanted, ReHeat. Probably more trouble than it's worth, but I think you've got enough paperwork to show they're not taking a loss and that they agreed to it.
Not worth it, I'm never going back to that dealer again (Mitsubishi of Thousand Oaks, for those who live in Southern Cali). And I refuse to pay over MSRP!
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 01:07 AM
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same here. MSRP OR BELOW!!!!!!!

btw, does irvine mitsu selling them for msrp? it's on our msrp list.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by Zoltok
Their concern would be if the evo's didn't sell, that means they get no money since the evo's didn't sell....but oh well whatever

for 40K you can just import the VII from EI
Once the cars are on our lots MMMA has received the money from each dealer's bank. So in effect they have already been paid for.

Then Hobie said
MMC gets paid the same regardless. I don't see why it would be any of their concern.
But on the other hand, the company doesn't just want them to rot on the dealers' lot either, its up to them to help us sell them with ad campaigns and incentives. The former much greater then the latter which will probably be nonexistent for this car. This car is going to be no different from any other first time run limited edition copy. Some of you seem unable to accept this so I gather that you have never purchased a car on your own before or especially not one that's produced in limited numbers. Its just plain old supply versus demand. If the latter exceeds the former, expect higher price, long lines and delays. Its like Tickle Me Elmos, Color Game Boys, The Legend of Zelda, and them little *** remote control cars.

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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 01:38 AM
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question: did wrx's sell above MSRP when it first came out? if so, how long did it take for it to sell below msrp. also, were wrx's limited edition in the beginning? will mitsu up the production later in the year if demand is higher????

just wondering about my chance of getting one later in the year at or below msrp.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 09:50 AM
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Well, I'm not sure whether they sold below MSRP or not, but, I do recall that the WRX's numbers were greatly UNDERquoted when they were first coming to the states in order to create the feeling that they would be a "limited production" when they were in fact a limited release.

That's the whole point here. I doubt that MMC is going to keep this first shipment as the only shipment for the year, and freaking out because they're going to ***-rape that first wave by charging massive amounts of cash above MSRP does absolutely zero good. I doubt that this car will be rare. I doubt that it will be difficult to get, given 6-8 months. I mean, damn, look at the early 90s generation of SVT Cobra. I remember those being "rare" and "difficult" to find cars back in the day, but, now, I hardly go two days without seeing a DIFFERENT one. Something tells me that if demand is as it seems to be, that no one is going to get turned away if they have the money. I'm sure all of you with the green will get your Evolutions in time, and probably for at or below MSRP.

Whenever I say that an "I told you so" is coming, it's for those many many folks who didn't do the right way for putting down their deposit. In other words, going into a dealership, dropping a non-refundable 500 bucks down on a car that they had next to no information about, hadn't testdrove, and had no clue for how many would be available when they were agreeing for. I don't know about you guys, but, 500 is alot of dough for a car that I know jack about, and I'd hate to be number 8 on the list if your dealership is only getting 7. I've said this from day one that I think that while the level of enthusiasm is admirable, that I think that it was a bad idea. I think that if you have the credit, and the willingness to wait a few months that you'd get a chance to

a) test drive the car (how some people want to BUY this car without test driving it is beyond me)

b) be able to buy closer (if not below or at) MSRP.

c) get your car in a timely, and orderly fashion.

I mean, granted, now we know what colors, and what packages, but, at the same time, I think that color and package hardly make the car.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 10:03 AM
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For my case the manager's signature didn't mean jack **** to them. Cuz on my copy of the deposit sheet, it says under $35K, and the manager signed it. But, when they called me, they said they made a mistake, and the price should be $40K. Good thing my deposit is fully refundable, they only swiped my credit card, didn't actually charge it.

I think the most important thing is to find a dealer that you've dealt with before and whom you could trust.
Tell your lawer to write them a letter and they are in a legal binding. They will be ****ting bricks when you set up a court date. You'll be surprised how powerful a letter from a lawyer would be.

It's a contract and signed. That is the whole point of signing to ensure that wounldn't happen. If they made the typo buy law they will have to eat up the cost or difference.

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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 05:59 PM
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The dealer I called today....Santa Monica Mitsu (CA) said they were getting 3 Evo's in Feb, and that they would be going for aroubd 35k MSRP, and then they are gonna mark it up on top of that
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