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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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New Cali SMOG LAWS?

I was getting my work truck an oil change and there was a smog only station next door so I decided to go and ask some questions (mainly due to someones post that because of the AWD they only do a 25% power sniffer test and a visual inspection and not a full on dyno like 2wd cars... btw this is true) he told me that I wouldnt have to smog my car till 2009 because of a change in law that passed january 1st 2005 he showed me the paper work that he received stating that the last four model years smog would be extended 6 from their manufactures date, hence 2001 = 2007 and 2003's (mine) = 2009 thus replacing the 3 year new car law.

any info proving this wrong? kinda cool IMHO
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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I hope that's true and I will try to find out if it is. Thanks for the great news!!!
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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From California's DMV Site.
Vehicles registered in areas subject to the biennial smog certification program are required to submit evidence of a smog certification every other renewal period. Starting January 1, 2005, owners of vehicles six or less model years old will pay an annual smog abatement fee for the first six registration years instead of being required to provide a biennial smog certification. The registration renewal notice mailed to you by the department will indicate if a smog certification is required. If a smog certification is required and you have not had a smog inspection, you may still pay your registration fees to avoid any late fees. However, you will not receive your new registration or year sticker until the smog information has been received by DMV.
BTW, the fee is only $12.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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Yes, it's true (see above). Here is the relevant language of newly revised California Health & Safety Code section 44011:

(a) All motor vehicles powered by internal combustion engines that are registered within an area designated for program coverage shall be required biennially to obtain a certificate of compliance or noncompliance, except for all of the following:
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(B) Beginning January 1, 2005, any motor vehicle six or less model-years old, unless the state board finds that providing an exception for these vehicles will prohibit the state from meeting the requirements of Section 176(c) of the Clean Air Act (42 U.S.C. Sec. 7401 et seq.) or the state's commitments with respect to the state implementation plan required by the Clean Air Act.
One smile for each year of the exemption from smog tests. My '04 EVO is due for a smog test in 2010.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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isnt this taking money out of the independantly owned SMOG stations pocket and putting it in the CALI governments? I mean the new change absolutly owns but seems like they'd rather have the 12 bucks than the SMOG check, maybe we're seeing our first signs of Arnie giving us a break? hopefully next we'll get 93 octane gas (yeah ... right)
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard EVO
Yes, it's true (see above). Here is the relevant language of newly revised California Health & Safety Code section 44011:

(a) All motor vehicles powered by internal combustion engines that are registered within an area designated for program coverage shall be required biennially to obtain a certificate of compliance or noncompliance, except for all of the following:
. . .

(B) Beginning January 1, 2005, any motor vehicle six or less model-years old, unless the state board finds that providing an exception for these vehicles will prohibit the state from meeting the requirements of Section 176(c) of the Clean Air Act (42 U.S.C. Sec. 7401 et seq.) or the state's commitments with respect to the state implementation plan required by the Clean Air Act.
One smile for each year of the exemption from smog tests. My '04 EVO is due for a smog test in 2010.
IS anyone happy except us? when I heard this I nearly **** myself with giddyness
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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no i am happy
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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still a huge fine if u get caught without a cat...
i do love the smell though
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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ah, California. Making the rest of the country hard to live...
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by KILTERMAN
isnt this taking money out of the independantly owned SMOG stations pocket and putting it in the CALI governments? I mean the new change absolutly owns but seems like they'd rather have the 12 bucks than the SMOG check, maybe we're seeing our first signs of Arnie giving us a break? hopefully next we'll get 93 octane gas (yeah ... right)
I guess it does help if you have a "Car Guy" in office, meanwhile here in hawaii, our govener wants to make our already crappy 92 octane worse by adding methanol like you guys
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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I need to register my car in california soon. It wasnt purchased there. do I still need to get it smogged since its coming from out of state?
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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Ha - I was going to get my car smogged just to see if my evo would pass with my exhaust and cams. No point in doing that now!
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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Any car when first registered in California from another state has to be smogged. I am a CA resident and bought my 05 Evo out of state. I still had to have it smogged (static test, no dyno) per the CARB and DMV regs. It was a pain because the stop and smog places don't have all the necessary O5 Evo test "procedures" and I had to go to the dealer. $90 - ouch. As the thread says, I should be good now for 6 years, but I never underestimate the state gumbys and their ability to complicate the simplest of tasks.

It's all good because I bought the car close to invoice by purchasing it elsewhere. The DMV will also look under your hood to make sure the car is a 50-state (including California specifically cited on the emissions sticker) emissions certified car. Should be no problem for you as all Evos are 50-state certified.

Good luck
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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A quick question. I will be moving to Cali in a few months. I currently live in Indiana. What do I have to look for on my Lancer to see if it is a 50 state legal car? Also, I have a 1986 Pontiac Fiero GT V6 with no Cat on it, would I be able to plate it in Cali? (The Fiero also has dual straight pipes with removable baffles.) I have a feeling I am going to be in a lot of trouble when I move out there.
Thanks, Jay
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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Shado,
Without a cat, you will not pass smog. Even with one you may need to have some work done on your car if it was not setup to pass California emissions originally. Get ready for the large registration fees, my tags were like $400+, not sure how much for a used car though.
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