Car and Driver EVO vs STi
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From: Jacksonville, NC
Originally Posted by Trollski
And if my aunt had ... you know the rest.
I'm only defending the STi, and spreading a little truth. Look at page 2 and see who started the ignorant 'STi is less rally qualified than the evo', "owned", etc., crap.
I'm only defending the STi, and spreading a little truth. Look at page 2 and see who started the ignorant 'STi is less rally qualified than the evo', "owned", etc., crap.
i was not attacking the STi. im with jude ...i just prefer the evo. i was just adding some input in regards to the rally argument.
id like to add that ...yes i do enjoy a good offroad action. we have ALOT of gravel roads around here and a few other enclosed roadways surrounded by tons of trees and ponds/lakes. i almost went swimming one day.
id like to add that ...yes i do enjoy a good offroad action. we have ALOT of gravel roads around here and a few other enclosed roadways surrounded by tons of trees and ponds/lakes. i almost went swimming one day.
Originally Posted by Trollski
evo lovers attack the STi for not having a 2L engine like the rally car. Yet, I point out that the ONLY thing the evo has in common with a rally car is it's displacement (along with a dozen other imports) and you all go into denial, excuse mode.
At least STi has the same wind tunnel tested body, and the same inverted strut design that has proved so versatile. (Winning the above C&D test, and a previous mid-corner bump test)
Proving that the STi is more true to rally heritage than the evo.
At least STi has the same wind tunnel tested body, and the same inverted strut design that has proved so versatile. (Winning the above C&D test, and a previous mid-corner bump test)
Proving that the STi is more true to rally heritage than the evo.
It's in the testing phrase, that's why it's using the same diff, same engine, same shifter and transmission with very light mods.
the Evo doesn't even have center diff on wrc version.
STI has a different body kit that's wind tunnel tested and design for the rally racing. Just because it looks similar, that doesn't mean it's the same.
Who cares about car and driver? That's not even a magazine I would wipe my a ss with.
Look at Top Gear mag, read the comparison and see who won.
Riding this car and driver thing like there's no tomorrow.
Guys EVO's own Sti's on any surface including the dirt and snow. Don't just take my word for it, remember the origional article with Rod Millen driving them back to back on a dirt loop. Everything about the EVO was better in the dirt and quite a lot quicker too. I can back that up with the driving I have done with both on all surfaces. BTW the reason the STi is faster in the decelerating slalom is because it has a lot of understeer 
(it helps there), we beat it in the accelerating slalom for the same reason (Sti's understeer).
There is no type of track (of surface) where an STi is faster...end of story. I'm all for giving credit where it's due, it's just that the Sti doesn’t deserve in it's current configuration...
(it helps there), we beat it in the accelerating slalom for the same reason (Sti's understeer). There is no type of track (of surface) where an STi is faster...end of story. I'm all for giving credit where it's due, it's just that the Sti doesn’t deserve in it's current configuration...
Originally Posted by pyrovice
well I live in michigan so unfortunatley at least a few times a year I have to rally to get around town 
I would agree that stock the STi handles better in the snow and dirt, but the evo still drive rediculously well on the snow with Blizzaks mounted. And when it comes down to it the evo and the STi are so similar it's a matter of preference. I chose the evo because I'm in love with it and it has that little sharp edge that the STi traded for comfort.
I would agree that stock the STi handles better in the snow and dirt, but the evo still drive rediculously well on the snow with Blizzaks mounted. And when it comes down to it the evo and the STi are so similar it's a matter of preference. I chose the evo because I'm in love with it and it has that little sharp edge that the STi traded for comfort.
Maybe its just me....but the WRC rally car looks alot my Evo...lol....put a screen in the grill and some wide body fenders along with a really ugly wing and were off to the rally...just my 2Cents....All these guys with the Sti's need to stop whinning...their just mad cause they are constantlly getting their a$$es handed to them...in mags, on the track and in the streets....sucks for them..Lol
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From: Minnesoter
Originally Posted by plokivos
Who cares about car and driver? That's not even a magazine I would wipe my a ss with.
Look at Top Gear mag, read the comparison and see who won.
Riding this car and driver thing like there's no tomorrow.
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
This is the second test they did. They did everything they could in this test to make sure the STi would win including finding a track with more straigtaways and less corners and as someone mentioned, they did tests where the STi's understeer would actually be an advantage.
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
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Originally Posted by chronohunter
There is no type of track (of surface) where an STi is faster...end of story. I'm all for giving credit where it's due, it's just that the Sti doesn’t deserve in it's current configuration...
i think if anyone on this board, trolls excepted, liked the sti they would have bought one instead of an evo... i know they were the only two cars i was looking at... i just think the sti is too hi-profile with the ugly hood scoop and wing but that's just me... if we want to get in a pissing contest lets compare the cost/benefit ratio of modding either car and see who comes out on top
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From: Minnesoter
Originally Posted by chronohunter
There is no type of track (of surface) where an STi is faster...end of story. I'm all for giving credit where it's due, it's just that the Sti doesn’t deserve in it's current configuration...
Ok, I call BS on this one. The guy said his basically stock STi ran faster than an Enzo.
There is no type of track (of surface) where an STi is faster...end of story. I'm all for giving credit where it's due, it's just that the Sti doesn’t deserve in it's current configuration...
Originally Posted by godai