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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 12:52 PM
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no scooby wouldn't do that. Detroit is THE auto show, they can get greater impact from detroit. thats why mits will unveil endevor - a much bigger volume wise car in detroit
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 02:17 PM
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wow, this is so exciting, even up till the very last minute. thanks f1mania--don't let us down. we await your final report . . .
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by WannaRace
With all the Japanese tags could it be JSpec?
Could he not see if the steering wheel was on the other side!!? In any case he described the buttons to being to the left of the wheel......the JDM is not released in England or Japan for another 3 months!...So if he is not a hoaxster, I think that could be the U.S. version....Did'nt Sir Paul Hanson describe that button with the wavy lines on it?
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 05:55 PM
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Wow, this is intense. If Subaru brings over the STi, it's on. They have been dicking the dog for awhile now.

The STi is probably going to OWN the US spec Evo. As long as we get the 6 speed with the LSD and the DCCD. The new Twin Scroll Turbine on the EJ207 is just ****.

It will get interesting.

I really really hope that Mitsu is going to bring over the ACD and the front LSD, but it sounds like they are not.

It would truly suprise the heck out of me to see Subaru unviel the STi though, as they tend to lag. Subaru's American division sucks ***.

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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 06:10 PM
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they moved another yellow one in today and this in my opinion looks even better thanthe red. they drove the car up the stage and i knew that this was my last chance ever to find out. not too productive. since one of you guys sent me a picture of the tach with the 3 settings then this is what i looked for when they started the engine. first of all the speedometer on this car only goes up to 160mph. the tach is more centered and the reading is virtually identical. with the engine on, the only light within the tach 'circle' was one. it is located on the south east corner in bright red. i was really expecting to see some green vertical lights or something. i didnt get to look at the buttons one more time because having to do so meant sticking my head in the car while the guy was driving. plus, everyone in the mitsubishi display seemed like they were specifically instructed to conceal the car as much as possible. i eventually got disapproving glares from the Mitsubishi reps so i decided this was my que to leave. today many chairs in front of the yellow car were arranged for the media. if they keep the display more or less the same for the public then id say this will be a very nice setup. since most of you will be finding out all the info you need (via webcast) at about the same time i will this thursday, then i will end my contri to this thread right here.
im sorry if i dissappointed most of you but this wait of yours is pretty much over. im sure you like what youve seen at this point so get ready this friday. i promise to do better work for the evo9. until then...
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 06:20 PM
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This guy is no help at all. Probably a publicity stunt by . Gimme a break. The button only say ACD on it.

If this could read 160MPH i'm sure he could of read Tarmac, gravel, and snow in large letters much easier.

Waste of my time! Hope you get paid real well to **** most of us off.

Thanks and happy new year everyone
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 06:57 PM
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You think you would do any better given the circumstances (with mitsu reps staring you down, etc....) (about something you didn't even really care about?)

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This guy is no help at all. Probably a publicity stunt by . Gimme a break. The button only say ACD on it.

If this could read 160MPH i'm sure he could of read Tarmac, gravel, and snow in large letters much easier.

Waste of my time! Hope you get paid real well to **** most of us off.

Thanks and happy new year everyone
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 07:32 PM
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MEGABUSA, you could be correct. But, Hear me out. I assumed he knows and works for or has ties. The reason being is because he looked at the button carefully and can not confirm if the button we showed him looks like the one he'd seen. Just the way he wrote that seems unrealistic and uncommon what most people would write if they don't know anything about it.

Ex. Yeah their is two working buttons. One looks like traction control the other mirror and maybe foglights? Or they look similar but different. I'm sorry if i've sounded rude or offended him but it seem what it sounds.

Just the style of writing that's all. How could you notice 160mph and not notice a box on the center tach? Or the letter ACD on the button when he was looking for ACD. When he decribe the button he could of said he didn't see the letter ACD meaning we dont' have it. I'd bet he just can't tell us that's all.
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 08:26 PM
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There's just no pleasing some people... if he said it had ACD then would you believe him? It's very possible that this person didn't get enough time to notice much more then the 160mph. Either way, you have the choice to believe him or not, but there's no need or logic in accusing someone of being a Mitsubishi rep and wasting your time.

I look forward to the Jan. 3rd webcast to see what the US Evo will be.

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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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Yep. I think we are all stoked for Jan. 3rd. I'll be glued to my monitor checking out the webcast, as well.
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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You do have a point KK. I should of waited until the 3rd anyways. I can't believe i'm going to miss the live webcast . I'll probably find out later friday night or knowing me, i'll probably try to get the scoop through my slow cell phone connection on my laptop

You'd think 3 days would be easy after waiting for 2 years, go figure

Happy New Year!

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Old Jan 1, 2003 | 06:31 AM
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Is this "twin scroll entry" on the STi really adding hp ? The Evo has had it for a while now. 2 subaru guy's i know claimed that it added hp? They were talking as if it was such some break thru in turbo's. I first heard this on the CT26's on the Toyota All Trac Celica's and MR2 as well (correct me if wrong). I dunno if Toyota was first but then i knew the Evo VI had it, not sure about the III, but after that the rest were twin scroll turbines.
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Old Jan 1, 2003 | 08:28 AM
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I think the twin scroll turbo allows the turbo to spool up faster thus giving you a broader power band. It does not add peak hp, but gives more area underneath the power curve (and thats whats important). I am not sure exactly how it works though, but I'm pretty sure it does not flow any more than other 16G.
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Old Jan 1, 2003 | 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by TearItUpSports
I think the twin scroll turbo allows the turbo to spool up faster thus giving you a broader power band. It does not add peak hp, but gives more area underneath the power curve (and thats whats important). I am not sure exactly how it works though, but I'm pretty sure it does not flow any more than other 16G.
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Twin-Scroll Turbine Housing

 Originally developed for commercial diesel applications, 
turbochargers with a twin-scroll turbine housing have now been 
successfully adapted for use with passenger car engines (both 
gas and diesel). By utilizing dual openings, or volutes, into the 
turbocharger's turbine housing, exhaust energy is optimized 
which results in better engine performance at low speeds, 
decreased backpressure at high speeds, and significant gains in 
fuel economy.   



Traditionally, passenger car turbochargers have had only one 
volute through which exhaust gases leaving the engine cylinders 
can enter the turbine housing (where they are used to create 
torque). Unfortunately, this single entry design can sometimes 
lead to combustion inefficiencies, since some cylinders are 
expelling burnt gases while others are inhaling fresh air for 
combustion. What happens is that the hot, dense exhaust gases 
from the first set of cylinders are drawn into the second set of 
cylinders, causing the combustion occurring in those second cyf 
the fuel it's consuming. 

 

Several wastegate solutions were considered to counter this 
problem, with a twin-scroll design ultimately providing the best 
solution. A twin-scroll, or twin-entry, housing allows each set of 
cylinders to release its exhaust gases into a dedicated volute. 
That way, it doesn't interfere with the other set of cylinders, 
which is taking in fresh air at that same time. Of course, 
refinements were necessary to account for the divider between 
the two volutes, but thanks to the dedication of Garrett 
engineers, those challenges have been met. 

As this technology is further developed, even smaller passenger 
car engines will be able to experience the benefits of the twin-
scroll turbine housing design including those fueled by natural 
gas. And, as with all the products Garrett manufactures, twin-
entry turbocharger technology will continue to be developed with 
an eye toward even greater efficiency and maximized performance.

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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by f1mania
..... first of all the speedometer on this car only goes up to 160mph.
The official press release says 170mph. Could f1 have seen a different version?
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