major evo8 action in L.A.!!!
Originally posted by WannaRace
With all the Japanese tags could it be JSpec?
With all the Japanese tags could it be JSpec?
Wow, this is intense. If Subaru brings over the STi, it's on. They have been dicking the dog for awhile now.
The STi is probably going to OWN the US spec Evo. As long as we get the 6 speed with the LSD and the DCCD. The new Twin Scroll Turbine on the EJ207 is just ****.
It will get interesting.
I really really hope that Mitsu is going to bring over the ACD and the front LSD, but it sounds like they are not.
It would truly suprise the heck out of me to see Subaru unviel the STi though, as they tend to lag. Subaru's American division sucks ***.
Andy
The STi is probably going to OWN the US spec Evo. As long as we get the 6 speed with the LSD and the DCCD. The new Twin Scroll Turbine on the EJ207 is just ****.
It will get interesting.
I really really hope that Mitsu is going to bring over the ACD and the front LSD, but it sounds like they are not.

It would truly suprise the heck out of me to see Subaru unviel the STi though, as they tend to lag. Subaru's American division sucks ***.
Andy
they moved another yellow one in today and this in my opinion looks even better thanthe red. they drove the car up the stage and i knew that this was my last chance ever to find out. not too productive. since one of you guys sent me a picture of the tach with the 3 settings then this is what i looked for when they started the engine. first of all the speedometer on this car only goes up to 160mph. the tach is more centered and the reading is virtually identical. with the engine on, the only light within the tach 'circle' was one. it is located on the south east corner in bright red. i was really expecting to see some green vertical lights or something. i didnt get to look at the buttons one more time because having to do so meant sticking my head in the car while the guy was driving. plus, everyone in the mitsubishi display seemed like they were specifically instructed to conceal the car as much as possible. i eventually got disapproving glares from the Mitsubishi reps so i decided this was my que to leave. today many chairs in front of the yellow car were arranged for the media. if they keep the display more or less the same for the public then id say this will be a very nice setup. since most of you will be finding out all the info you need (via webcast) at about the same time i will this thursday, then i will end my contri to this thread right here.
im sorry if i dissappointed most of you but this wait of yours is pretty much over. im sure you like what youve seen at this point so get ready this friday. i promise to do better work for the evo9. until then...
im sorry if i dissappointed most of you but this wait of yours is pretty much over. im sure you like what youve seen at this point so get ready this friday. i promise to do better work for the evo9. until then...
This guy is no help at all. Probably a publicity stunt by
. Gimme a break. The button only say ACD on it.
If this
could read 160MPH i'm sure he could of read Tarmac, gravel, and snow in large letters much easier.
Waste of my time! Hope you get paid real well to **** most of us off.
Thanks and happy new year everyone
. Gimme a break. The button only say ACD on it. If this
could read 160MPH i'm sure he could of read Tarmac, gravel, and snow in large letters much easier. Waste of my time! Hope you get paid real well to **** most of us off.
Thanks and happy new year everyone
You think you would do any better given the circumstances (with mitsu reps staring you down, etc....) (about something you didn't even really care about?)
Originally posted by gtr
This guy is no help at all. Probably a publicity stunt by
. Gimme a break. The button only say ACD on it.
If this
could read 160MPH i'm sure he could of read Tarmac, gravel, and snow in large letters much easier.
Waste of my time! Hope you get paid real well to **** most of us off.
Thanks and happy new year everyone
This guy is no help at all. Probably a publicity stunt by
. Gimme a break. The button only say ACD on it. If this
could read 160MPH i'm sure he could of read Tarmac, gravel, and snow in large letters much easier. Waste of my time! Hope you get paid real well to **** most of us off.
Thanks and happy new year everyone
MEGABUSA, you could be correct. But, Hear me out. I assumed he knows and works for
or has ties. The reason being is because he looked at the button carefully and can not confirm if the button we showed him looks like the one he'd seen. Just the way he wrote that seems unrealistic and uncommon what most people would write if they don't know anything about it.
Ex. Yeah their is two working buttons. One looks like traction control the other mirror and maybe foglights? Or they look similar but different. I'm sorry if i've sounded rude or offended him but it seem what it sounds.
Just the style of writing that's all. How could you notice 160mph and not notice a box on the center tach? Or the letter ACD on the button when he was looking for ACD. When he decribe the button he could of said he didn't see the letter ACD meaning we dont' have it. I'd bet he just can't tell us that's all.
or has ties. The reason being is because he looked at the button carefully and can not confirm if the button we showed him looks like the one he'd seen. Just the way he wrote that seems unrealistic and uncommon what most people would write if they don't know anything about it.Ex. Yeah their is two working buttons. One looks like traction control the other mirror and maybe foglights? Or they look similar but different. I'm sorry if i've sounded rude or offended him but it seem what it sounds.
Just the style of writing that's all. How could you notice 160mph and not notice a box on the center tach? Or the letter ACD on the button when he was looking for ACD. When he decribe the button he could of said he didn't see the letter ACD meaning we dont' have it. I'd bet he just can't tell us that's all.
There's just no pleasing some people... if he said it had ACD then would you believe him? It's very possible that this person didn't get enough time to notice much more then the 160mph. Either way, you have the choice to believe him or not, but there's no need or logic in accusing someone of being a Mitsubishi rep and wasting your time.
I look forward to the Jan. 3rd webcast to see what the US Evo will be.
Mark
I look forward to the Jan. 3rd webcast to see what the US Evo will be.
Mark
You do have a point KK. I should of waited until the 3rd anyways. I can't believe i'm going to miss the live webcast
. I'll probably find out later friday night or knowing me, i'll probably try to get the scoop through my slow cell phone connection on my laptop 
You'd think 3 days would be easy after waiting for 2 years, go figure
Happy New Year!
. I'll probably find out later friday night or knowing me, i'll probably try to get the scoop through my slow cell phone connection on my laptop You'd think 3 days would be easy after waiting for 2 years, go figure
Happy New Year!
Last edited by gtr; Dec 31, 2002 at 09:02 PM.
Is this "twin scroll entry" on the STi really adding hp
? The Evo has had it for a while now. 2 subaru guy's i know claimed that it added hp? They were talking as if it was such some break thru in turbo's. I first heard this on the CT26's on the Toyota All Trac Celica's and MR2 as well (correct me if wrong). I dunno if Toyota was first but then i knew the Evo VI had it, not sure about the III, but after that the rest were twin scroll turbines.
? The Evo has had it for a while now. 2 subaru guy's i know claimed that it added hp? They were talking as if it was such some break thru in turbo's. I first heard this on the CT26's on the Toyota All Trac Celica's and MR2 as well (correct me if wrong). I dunno if Toyota was first but then i knew the Evo VI had it, not sure about the III, but after that the rest were twin scroll turbines.
I think the twin scroll turbo allows the turbo to spool up faster thus giving you a broader power band. It does not add peak hp, but gives more area underneath the power curve (and thats whats important). I am not sure exactly how it works though, but I'm pretty sure it does not flow any more than other 16G.
Originally posted by TearItUpSports
I think the twin scroll turbo allows the turbo to spool up faster thus giving you a broader power band. It does not add peak hp, but gives more area underneath the power curve (and thats whats important). I am not sure exactly how it works though, but I'm pretty sure it does not flow any more than other 16G.
I think the twin scroll turbo allows the turbo to spool up faster thus giving you a broader power band. It does not add peak hp, but gives more area underneath the power curve (and thats whats important). I am not sure exactly how it works though, but I'm pretty sure it does not flow any more than other 16G.
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Twin-Scroll Turbine Housing Originally developed for commercial diesel applications, turbochargers with a twin-scroll turbine housing have now been successfully adapted for use with passenger car engines (both gas and diesel). By utilizing dual openings, or volutes, into the turbocharger's turbine housing, exhaust energy is optimized which results in better engine performance at low speeds, decreased backpressure at high speeds, and significant gains in fuel economy.Traditionally, passenger car turbochargers have had only one volute through which exhaust gases leaving the engine cylinders can enter the turbine housing (where they are used to create torque). Unfortunately, this single entry design can sometimes lead to combustion inefficiencies, since some cylinders are expelling burnt gases while others are inhaling fresh air for combustion. What happens is that the hot, dense exhaust gases from the first set of cylinders are drawn into the second set of cylinders, causing the combustion occurring in those second cyf the fuel it's consuming.
Several wastegate solutions were considered to counter this problem, with a twin-scroll design ultimately providing the best solution. A twin-scroll, or twin-entry, housing allows each set of cylinders to release its exhaust gases into a dedicated volute. That way, it doesn't interfere with the other set of cylinders, which is taking in fresh air at that same time. Of course, refinements were necessary to account for the divider between the two volutes, but thanks to the dedication of Garrett engineers, those challenges have been met. As this technology is further developed, even smaller passenger car engines will be able to experience the benefits of the twin- scroll turbine housing design including those fueled by natural gas. And, as with all the products Garrett manufactures, twin- entry turbocharger technology will continue to be developed with an eye toward even greater efficiency and maximized performance.
Last edited by dazz; Jan 2, 2003 at 06:54 AM.




Traditionally, passenger car turbochargers have had only one
volute through which exhaust gases leaving the engine cylinders
can enter the turbine housing (where they are used to create
torque). Unfortunately, this single entry design can sometimes
lead to combustion inefficiencies, since some cylinders are
expelling burnt gases while others are inhaling fresh air for
combustion. What happens is that the hot, dense exhaust gases
from the first set of cylinders are drawn into the second set of
cylinders, causing the combustion occurring in those second cyf
the fuel it's consuming.
Several wastegate solutions were considered to counter this
problem, with a twin-scroll design ultimately providing the best
solution. A twin-scroll, or twin-entry, housing allows each set of
cylinders to release its exhaust gases into a dedicated volute.
That way, it doesn't interfere with the other set of cylinders,
which is taking in fresh air at that same time. Of course,
refinements were necessary to account for the divider between
the two volutes, but thanks to the dedication of Garrett
engineers, those challenges have been met.
As this technology is further developed, even smaller passenger
car engines will be able to experience the benefits of the twin-
scroll turbine housing design including those fueled by natural
gas. And, as with all the products Garrett manufactures, twin-
entry turbocharger technology will continue to be developed with
an eye toward even greater efficiency and maximized performance.