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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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Heres a link to the Ralli Art Evolution R-01 wheels. They come in three different color schemes. http://hopupracing.com/raartevr.html
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Terry S
looks like GT 9 = GSR 8 and GSR 9 = MR 8...
MR was just another expression for Evolution 8.5

The Evolution 9 in all flavours (RS, GT and GSR) comes with the Mivec Engine, the RS and GT also have the Magnesium Turbo (slightly smaller than the MR turbo) which means faster spool up and slightly more torque. GT is basically an RS but with all the GSR trimmings with exception of the HID lights. The GSR uses the same turbo as the Evolution 8.5 (aka Evolution MR).

So in essence, none of the IX models are the same as the MR with the exception of the MR turbo for the GSR (however you can order the magnesium turbo as a factory option for the GSR).
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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The new power and torque curves aren't much of an improvement over the VIII MR, especially for the GSR without the magnesium turbo. The MIVEC seems to have made very little difference there. I am sure the relflash of the computer, like I have seen on this site, gets the same or better results quite easily. So instead of MIVEC they could just have retuned it slightly. I think all the previous evolutions have had a bigger difference in the power and torque curves over the previous model, most/all of them had a noticable improvement in torque as well (and for the GSR too, not just the RS and RSII/GT). So that's a little disapointing but maybe there are improvements in other areas, I can't read japanese.

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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by astondg
The new power and torque curves aren't much of an improvement over the VIII MR, especially for the GSR without the magnesium turbo. The MIVEC seems to have made very little difference there. I am sure the relflash of the computer, like I have seen on this site, gets the same or better results quite easily. So instead of MIVEC they could just have retuned it slightly. I think all the previous evolutions have had a bigger difference in the power and torque curves over the previous model, most/all of them had a noticable improvement in torque as well (and for the GSR too, not just the RS and RSII/GT). So that's a little disapointing but maybe there are improvements in other areas, I can't read japanese.

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The fact that the MIVEC is essentially a VVT engine would indicate that it has a much huger potential for being tuned via remaps. However, of course - the current (VIII) engine is tunability proven and the tunability of the Mivec is yet to be proven..

btw - we are getting 20ft of torque over the MR engine even for the GSR. 7-8% percent over the current engine standard aint bad especially considering its running at std.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 03:00 PM
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Is it not possible to import JDM cars from over there - or is it a LHD/RHD issue?
I wasnt asking to import one here...I could care less what the rest of the world has...I want to know what the USMD IX is gonna be like, how much it's gonna be and when it is going to be available in the UNITED STATES
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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I wasnt asking to import one here...I could care less what the rest of the world has...I want to know what the USMD IX is gonna be like, how much it's gonna be and when it is going to be available in the UNITED STATES
Well instead of getting all *****y about it why dont you start a new thread asking someone?
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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So, I'm still wondering what the blank spot where are AC controls and radio arelocated. What is that blank screen. It looks like it might be a navigation system screen, but then where are the controls for AC and radio and whatnot. Hopefully it would be a programmable system like the GTR34
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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Today's strong N/A engine's all have some form of VVT, and this can be a monster combo with a turbo...however, do you think the engine's ability to withstand boost/reliability will decrease? I mean, whenever you maximize the power of the engine via tuning, compression ratio goes up...I forsee issues with MIVEC/turbo combination
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GlobalGB
btw - we are getting 20ft of torque over the MR engine even for the GSR. 7-8% percent over the current engine standard aint bad especially considering its running at std.
Who do you mean by we? As far as I can see the IX GSR has the same 40.8kg-m as the JDM VIII MR GSR (also the UK VIII MR FQ300)? The Japanese IX does have 4lbft more than the US VIII MR, I was talking about Japanese versions though because the US specs are unknown so far.

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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Vroompsh
Today's strong N/A engine's all have some form of VVT, and this can be a monster combo with a turbo...however, do you think the engine's ability to withstand boost/reliability will decrease? I mean, whenever you maximize the power of the engine via tuning, compression ratio goes up...I forsee issues with MIVEC/turbo combination
I think it's working ok for the STI so far? What do you mean about the compression ratio? I though the main ways to increase it was to use different (high compression) pistons or, in some cars, shave the head? What do you mean by "maximise the power via tuning"?

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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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I think it's working ok for the STI so far? What do you mean about the compression ratio? I though the main ways to increase it was to use different (high compression) pistons or, in some cars, shave the head? What do you mean by "maximise the power via tuning"?
Lets use the E46 M3 as an example...The engine in that car is tuned to the max for street reliability. The compression ratio is very high. There are maybe 1 or 2 superchargers made for it, and i have yet to see a turbo kit for that car.

I wasn't aware of the STi's VVT system, so you have a point there. I guess these VVT systems (subaru's and mitsu's) are very mild as compared to..say..honda's VTEC. The S2000 has a crazy VTEC system...As long as the CR of the IX's engine is close to what it was before, it will be ok. I just don't see a point. The 4G63 is one of the most boosthappy bulletproof engines you can find. I don't know why would go thru the trouble of redesigning the valvetrain for maybe 5-10 hp when you could achieve such high numbers with the current engine. I guess it could smooth out the powerband a bit...
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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are the white face gauges day and the black/orange ones for night?
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Vroompsh
Lets use the E46 M3 as an example...The engine in that car is tuned to the max for street reliability. The compression ratio is very high. There are maybe 1 or 2 superchargers made for it, and i have yet to see a turbo kit for that car.
The IX has the same compression ratio as the VIII, 8.8:1 . The compression ratio isn't affected by the MIVEC.

You're right about the powerband, that was the point of the MIVEC, also to help the engine off boost. Like I said before though it doesn't seem to have done any more than a normal retuning could do.

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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GlobalGB
Is it not possible to import JDM cars from over there - or is it a LHD/RHD issue?
Almost impossible with strict emission laws ( hope I spelled that right)
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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Does anyone know if the blue in the brochure is the same as the '05 electric blue.... gosh I can't wait till this hits the US market... I already informed all of the mitsu dealers within 50 miles of me to call me as soon as they get a production schedule... oh and r we getting those new hot seats for sure or not???
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