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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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I'm extremely interested in the EcuTek flash. The supporting mods would be a WRP Exhale AB (Axle Back) Exhaust and an RMR air filter kit. My local tuner is offering everything as a package...installed, tuned and tested on their DynaPack AWD dyno. They claim an increase between 30hp and 50hp.

They also mentioned that the EcuTek flash is only available on '05 models though. I forgot the reason why. I would love to hear what kind of opinions people have about the new EcuTek flash...especially those with mild supporting mods.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
MAF just as any other reflash
Al, what are the units for "Load"? Something like lb/revolution?

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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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This may be a dumb question but I heard that ecutek was releasing a program that lets the user actually tune the car, sort of like a standalone does but using stock hardware..I would think that there would not be as much profit involved compared to selling theese to tuners and collecting royalty on every flash and so on so it does not make sense..Can anyone shed some light on this??
I think they are working on the Subaru user tuneable stuff right now. They probably have a larger base of Subaru customers right now. It may take a bit longer for the Evo stuff to arrive.

The EcuTek flash installs a license on your ECU. From what I could tell while Al was tuning my car... He buys a number of licenses(say 10) from EcuTek... then anytime he starts to flash a car that dosen't have a license already on the ECU, the software says "This car does not currently have an EcuTek license installed. If you continue, you will use one license(you currently have 10)."

I imagine that the usertuneable software will require you to have a license installed buy a "vendor" in order to use it. The software will also likely come with some sort of "dongle" to connect to the OBDII port.

Side note: Al also said that the EcuTek flash locks the ECU from being reflashed by any other flashing system. So, the techs at the dealership can't "do you a favor" and install the latest Mitsu approved flash. Cool.

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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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Im courious about something. Since dealerships are said to void warranties because of reflashes, is there anyway to get your care tuned with a reflash but then a way to set it back to default before taking it into the dealer for what ever reason? and then a way to get it back to the tuned setup?
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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for the people that have the ecutek do you think you would have have gotten as much power as from the other poppular flashes ie. dynoflash,turbotrix,vishnu
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by zbomb
for the people that have the ecutek do you think you would have have gotten as much power as from the other poppular flashes ie. dynoflash,turbotrix,vishnu
Unless you've had both how would they know? The real question is for guys who've been lucky enough to ride, drive, or tune Evos with different flashes. Since Al's best known for his dynoflashes and he's been very impressed thus far with a 3rd party EcuTek tune...well I have to believe this is a superior flash to whatever else is out on the market. The fact alone that no additional hardware is required to avoid boost taper is amazing to me.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
Unless you've had both how would they know? The real question is for guys who've been lucky enough to ride, drive, or tune Evos with different flashes. Since Al's best known for his dynoflashes and he's been very impressed thus far with a 3rd party EcuTek tune...well I have to believe this is a superior flash to whatever else is out on the market. The fact alone that no additional hardware is required to avoid boost taper is amazing to me.
The ecutek does not just avoid boost taper - its adjusts and sets the boost as you would with a ebc.

Ecutek is the superior platform due to superior customer service and greater commitment to support od dealer network

Those who have used the Ecutek STI flash will understand just how far they have taken flash technology
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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Man, this sounds nice. I already know where my ECU is going. :P
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
The ecutek does not just avoid boost taper - its adjusts and sets the boost as you would with a ebc.
I'm assuming that at some point, when manipulating boost with software, you're limited by the hardware (strength of the spring in the wastegate I believe). Tossing out things like a safe A/F ratio and proper timing, what are the limits of the EcuTek when holding boost levels? Can it do anything the hardware allows for?
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I have confirmed that I will have it in hand by the end of next week

Keep in mind this will be a custom tuned product ONLY for at least two months

I have great news about tha capabilities of this flashing platform - basically it renders boost controllers totaly unneeded. Using this flash you will be able to run your car with the stock boost solinoid and hoses and I can dial in any boost you want and also have complete control over the boost function as with a electronic boost controller.

Also - the so called bang bang function on the evo VII which is kind of an anti lag between shifts will be open for addition to the us cars with some hardwear additions.

Finally, there are several other great features which will be comming out - more news on Monday
I thought that boost control was available on the XEDE and the WORKS P2 flash. I know that the AEM EMS has ALS (not sure if it's the "bang bang" type) so what makes this one's different? Why would you want a bang bang type sytem on a street car? I was also pretty sure that Evos (at least the VII) had ALS in the car, but not activated.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AutoXer
I think they are working on the Subaru user tuneable stuff right now. They probably have a larger base of Subaru customers right now. It may take a bit longer for the Evo stuff to arrive.

The EcuTek flash installs a license on your ECU. From what I could tell while Al was tuning my car... He buys a number of licenses(say 10) from EcuTek... then anytime he starts to flash a car that dosen't have a license already on the ECU, the software says "This car does not currently have an EcuTek license installed. If you continue, you will use one license(you currently have 10)."

I imagine that the usertuneable software will require you to have a license installed buy a "vendor" in order to use it. The software will also likely come with some sort of "dongle" to connect to the OBDII port.

Side note: Al also said that the EcuTek flash locks the ECU from being reflashed by any other flashing system. So, the techs at the dealership can't "do you a favor" and install the latest Mitsu approved flash. Cool.
Awesome! That means they can't try and put that pesky P0300 flash on!
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wEstSidE
Awesome! That means they can't try and put that pesky P0300 flash on!
Oh man, no tampering by the stealership. My thoughts exactly, Westside.

I'm liking this EcuTek the more I read about it.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Its a great flash - at this point there are limited advantages but they are going to be releasing many more enhanced features shortly. Its a great platform and without a doubt worh every penny

I made 318 whp and 328 tq on a SCCA T2 race car which had a 100% stock engine and power train with the ecutek - its a amazing unit
Al,

are they going to release a version of delta dash for the EVO? or does the existing product work?
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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The Evo ecutek does not support delta dash yet, they are working on it but have not yet released a date when it will be available.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
I'm assuming that at some point, when manipulating boost with software, you're limited by the hardware (strength of the spring in the wastegate I believe). Tossing out things like a safe A/F ratio and proper timing, what are the limits of the EcuTek when holding boost levels? Can it do anything the hardware allows for?
Like I said before - I make 318 whp and 328 tq on a bone stock 2005 MR with the ecutek - it can make serious boost
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