View Poll Results: Do you agree with Certified Mitsubish tech to advoid warrentee voids.
I think it\'s a great Idea!
12
12.77%
This is the retarded. We dont\' even have the high tech ACD and/or AYC so why?
43
45.74%
I don\'t mind spending the extra cash on dealer since i don\'t work on my own car anyways.
14
14.89%
I don\'t care
25
26.60%
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Do our cars need to be serviced by Mitsubishi!!!
Originally posted by gtr
The evo's have the turbo's right off the hot exhaust. The cat is after the turbo. This means less pressure drop for the turbo and easier to pass emissions and less lag "especiall with twin scroll"
Someone else here might be more knowlegable on this issue.
The evo's have the turbo's right off the hot exhaust. The cat is after the turbo. This means less pressure drop for the turbo and easier to pass emissions and less lag "especiall with twin scroll"
Someone else here might be more knowlegable on this issue.
With stringent US emissions, there's probably 2 cats, then, both post-turbo.
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From: Minneapolis
Originally posted by iodine23
You bring up a good point about the twin scroll turbo. Since the Evo has one, there probably isn't a cat pre-turbo. Otherwise you'd need two cats (pre-turbo), one for each pair of cylinders since the exhaust isn't common until post-turbo.
With stringent US emissions, there's probably 2 cats, then, both post-turbo.
You bring up a good point about the twin scroll turbo. Since the Evo has one, there probably isn't a cat pre-turbo. Otherwise you'd need two cats (pre-turbo), one for each pair of cylinders since the exhaust isn't common until post-turbo.
With stringent US emissions, there's probably 2 cats, then, both post-turbo.
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From: CA
Yeah really. A great idea is free service for the life of the warentee and any outside work voids the warentee. A bad idea is you have to have work done at our overpriced dealership in order to keep the warentee you bought.
My 2 cents
My 2 cents
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From: DFW, Texas
Originally posted by gtr
Is it possible to have TGV and variable valvetrain on the sti? I don't know but i'm guessing it does have a precat.
Is it possible to have TGV and variable valvetrain on the sti? I don't know but i'm guessing it does have a precat.
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From: boonies
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From: Pottstown, PA
Originally posted by gtr
Of course i'm not going to use cheap stuff. What if i want redline gear fluld and the dealership won't allow that? I wonder if I could bring a reciept for my parts for them to honor my warrentee? I also know a dodge mechanic so
will void if he works on my evo because he never worked on a 4g63 in an evo instead of a talon. Lets hope it's just a rumor.
I'm suprised by the reaction. I thought 75% of car enthusicts likes working on thier own cars?
Of course i'm not going to use cheap stuff. What if i want redline gear fluld and the dealership won't allow that? I wonder if I could bring a reciept for my parts for them to honor my warrentee? I also know a dodge mechanic so
will void if he works on my evo because he never worked on a 4g63 in an evo instead of a talon. Lets hope it's just a rumor. I'm suprised by the reaction. I thought 75% of car enthusicts likes working on thier own cars?
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From: Dayton, OH
Originally posted by gtr
Whoa, walking crank? I thought that is on the evo I-III motors (2g eclipses). I'm pretty sure our engine is far more advance than the engines used 8 years ago on the evo's. Any evo owners what to comment on this issue?
Whoa, walking crank? I thought that is on the evo I-III motors (2g eclipses). I'm pretty sure our engine is far more advance than the engines used 8 years ago on the evo's. Any evo owners what to comment on this issue?
BUT, I think you're right that by this point they have worked out the issues with crankwalk. I doubt the new Evo's will have problems with crankwalk. Are there any cases of late model (6 & 7) Evo's getting a walking crank?
-Loris
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From: CA
Good question. I was wondering how much more likely it will be to damage the crank bearings when you start to take the evo to around 300+HP. Also at what point should one replace the internals??? 400hp??? 
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From: Texas
From what I heard (Mitsu Tech) owners will have to sign a contract saying they will not race the EVO (probably even include modify in anyway) and only allow the dealership to do any work on the car.
I think this is gay considering I love to work on cars, will modify my cars, and don't want to pay an arm and a leg (assumption) for Ralli Art parts that I could get cheaper elsewhere. (IC piping, exhaust, etc) Probably the only thing I would consider buying would be the FQ computer??
I think this is gay considering I love to work on cars, will modify my cars, and don't want to pay an arm and a leg (assumption) for Ralli Art parts that I could get cheaper elsewhere. (IC piping, exhaust, etc) Probably the only thing I would consider buying would be the FQ computer??
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From: Boston, MA
"From what I heard (Mitsu Tech) owners will have to sign a contract saying they will not race the EVO (probably even include modify in anyway) and only allow the dealership to do any work on the car."
I heard something similar about service only (not the racing part). Danvers (Boston North Shore) has 4 coming on the initial shipment. 1 is already sold, they are taking no refund security deposits on the other 3, but will not sell over sticker for those with a deposit.
I'm going to wait for the heat to die off, check out the STi, and buy one of the 2 towards the end of the summer. Even with the volume of Rex's sold, it didn't take long for the dealers to drop below sticker when they first came out, I'd think it'll be the same way on the EVO and STi.
My $0.02...
I heard something similar about
service only (not the racing part). Danvers (Boston North Shore) has 4 coming on the initial shipment. 1 is already sold, they are taking no refund security deposits on the other 3, but will not sell over sticker for those with a deposit.I'm going to wait for the heat to die off, check out the STi, and buy one of the 2 towards the end of the summer. Even with the volume of Rex's sold, it didn't take long for the dealers to drop below sticker when they first came out, I'd think it'll be the same way on the EVO and STi.
My $0.02...
Regarding "factory only service"... legally if a factory specified part is required to maintain the factory warranty, the part must be supplied by the factory for free. This includes specific lubricants. If the labor MUST be performed at the dealer, then it has to be for free too.
Regarding employees of Satan actually knowing anything about a turbo car... I am sure there are a few out there. I have yet to meet one.
Regarding crankwalk... Any motor from any manufacturer can have a failed thrust bearing (or any other bearing for that matter). It was just an epidemic of failed 4G63 thrust bearings running from mid '95, peaking hard core in '96 and tapering off through '97. With the redesign of the thrust bearings in mid '97, occurances dropped off to industry standards. It still happens.
Mike W
Regarding employees of Satan actually knowing anything about a turbo car... I am sure there are a few out there. I have yet to meet one.
Regarding crankwalk... Any motor from any manufacturer can have a failed thrust bearing (or any other bearing for that matter). It was just an epidemic of failed 4G63 thrust bearings running from mid '95, peaking hard core in '96 and tapering off through '97. With the redesign of the thrust bearings in mid '97, occurances dropped off to industry standards. It still happens.
Mike W