ROTFLOL

 

Any modifications to the 4g63 of any consequence you should replace the rod bolts...every tuning company in the uk strongly advise doing this with any mods above 285bhp....Power engineering...Torque developments ect...ect......ARP are the bolts they use....I think this falls into the catagory of internal modifications

 

there is no such contract of service. Anyone can do any service u wish on your own car. Any aftermarket parts that may have affected the reliability of any other given part is simply up to the dealer to figure out. All dealers are different and some will look the other way and still replace the part. If they're ****** they'll inspect everything carefully. Any warantee repairs done or parts replaced will go as far as the dealers pen can go. In other words, for example, if a tranny in an Evo blows up and the dealer sees that you have changed the clutch to a greater capacity one, he can (the technician) write down simply that the tranny had failed internal components- Mitsu receives the core tranny and can never determine that a stronger clutch or an agressive driver caused the damage. The decision goes as far as the dealers pen and words can go. I've been working in a dealer for many years now- you would be surprised at the stuff that gets waranteed.

 

I'm not sure I understand the question or the lead-in for this thread. If you say you are an enthusiast and love to work on your own car and are going to mod it, you shouldn't give a rat's *** about a warrantee. You ought to be man (or woman) enough to deal with whatever problems you may face, and if that means having enough cash to pay for something if you break it then so be it. But don't get pissy because the dealers don't want to pay for your mistakes. Either keep the car stock through the basic warantee and have it serviced there, or roll the dice it is very simple. Just like the guy who started the thread saying his dealer was retarded because they wanted to charge him $600 for replacing his clutch, but then he went to check other shops and found that it was a bargain. I would be interested to know if a non Mitsu shop would even know what to do with an EVO, and what their prices would be. Our dealerhsip is very reasonable when it comes to pricing on service, and that's why even with very old complicated Mitsu's (like GVR4's, 1g GSX's, and AWD 3/S cars) most all of there owners still come to us and only us for service. Once you people actually own one of these cars, you'll understand.

 

It's humorous to imagine that there are "industry standards" for part-specific failures.


Employee: "What's the target failure rate for valve spring retainers, Bob?"

Manager: "Let's shoot for 2-3% in the upcoming fiscal year. No more, no less."

 

I don't agree with the above statement because NOT ALL people who mod their cars abuse them and they still may need waranty work for non-mod related reasons.

I've owned more than 1 DSM, and there are people that don't work at dealerships that have regular mechanic shopts that actually know WAY MORE than they do when it comes to DSMs.

If you actually have a dealership that you like, thats great for you, because you are in an extremely SMALL minority.

Maybe it is just me, but the 1G AWDs dont' seem all that complicated, but the 3KGTs are a different story.

 

And they'll get it, but I have the feeling people aren't talking about power window motors, or sunroofs going off track. Mods can put unforseen stress on stock parts even if driven by a gentle driver, and those people can't expect a dealer to pay for issues caused by aftermarket parts.

Okay, whatever, but not everybody lives next door to Buschur, or Extreme Motorsports or whatever shop that specializes in DSM's. For a lot of us, the dealership is going to be the only choice, especially when dealing with a brand new car.

Absolutely, my point about the old 1G's was that a lot of their owners still come to us for service, even though their warranties are long gone, proving we aren't the highest priced in town. And VR-4 owners almost have no choice. Here's three in our shop right now.

 

i do go.. for the free maintanence service

 

All my service is done by RRE. I wouldn't set foot in a Mitsu dealer service dept. for all the kim-chee in Seoul.

 

I will take it in for things I don't want to do or they can do way easier than I could. Oil changes, air filter changes, spark plugs, tire rotation, brakes I do all that. For a clutch or timing belt replacement I'll let them do that.

 

Mitsubishi does not say that you have to have a dealer do the maintenance done. They do say that it has to be maintained according to their specs. Correct fluid ratings and etc.

HOWEVER, if you maintain it yourself or you have someone maintain it for you, you had better be prepared to prove you have done so according to the vehicle and mitsu requirements if you expect them to warranty it. If you can't prove it with reliable documentation then how would they know that you HAVE maintained it?

I understand the need to save some $$ or the fact that some of you can't trust anyone but yourself or YOUR shop. I understand that a dealer may have burned you in the past. But you can't expect Mitsu to take care of your seized tranny if you can't document the last time you replaced the fluid, especially if it is seized and no fluid comes out when you pull the plug!?!

I do most of the maintenance on my own car too, knowing that the only responsible party for proving that I have maintained it is me. I'm responsible for my actions or inaction. If I'm not willing to pay them to do it right then I certainly can't expect them to pay for the result of someone else doing it wrong.

 

I've never been to a mitsu dealer that had a tech that had a clue. they scare me. warranty or not there not getting there non-opposable thumbed hands anywhere near my baby.

 

I think the key is to keep a dated log in the service manual that came with the car, and keep each reciept you obtained for oil/filter/gear oil, etc that goes along with each entry. I just did my own 15,000 mi service, replaced oil, filter, transaxle (BG synchroshift), and front/rear diffs (diaqueen LSD) fluids and getting an air filter after winter. As far as warranty goes, my two biggest concerns have always been clutch, which isn't covered anyway, and transfer case, in which case I would want it rebuilt with an LSD. From that perspective there isn't much to lose I guess.

 

as I said once before, it is a matter of time before Ralliart comes to the States and Once again I was right.
So in answer to all your questions about getting the FQ series of Evo's , it is just a matter of time.
Oh yeah for those of you who bashed me the first time when I said Ralliart will come to the states eventually, told ya so

 

Don't use redline. Everyone who says MTL and MT-90 smoother shifting, I used it in my Z. Didn't do anything but make me buy a new tranny.

Redline=garbage

I have been researching Motul, very good but very expensive stuff. And I have been reassured from a rally car builder to use Motul