BTW guys we always get technology that is taken out of Semi Trucks. They started the twin scroll setup on the exhaust side. The new thing is some kind of Twin scroll on the Compressor side FYI.

And im not trying to talk trash about RNR or AMS there kits are awsome. I love there manifolds i give them that. But i am tired of people talking trash about other companies when they have no proof to back things up.

Another FYI not that anybody cares but i am switching to a Exhaust Housing that a certain vendor is specially making for me and also a Full Race manifold within a month or 2 so we will see then how it compares. I do expect to gain HP without a doubt and also spool but that is only becouse of the point im at.

Anyway no hard feelings RNR or AMS

Chris

 

I did not say that you or your company said that. The guy above did, you guys keep saying that it is restrictive and keep talking $hit about ATP and I have not seen one dyno not even one with your 3071 on a stock EVO?? I have nothing against you guys in fact I always refer people to you and I am getting my 2.3 from you guys. but giving a credit when the credit is do is very important and talking BS is not right. I have said many times that your kit is superior haven’t I?? but why would you say that ATP is bad when it's making power with no lag?? I need hard facts and dyno numbers.

 

Alex alex and az3ar need to pick a location and settle this with a manly bout' of fisticuffs. Evom live webcast promotional event?

 

lol I am ready for this



after all Iraqis are my neighbors


but for real do you guys realize that before all this biased started the poor thread maker was saying (to those with ATP kit) That is not AMS and not Alex. I have no idea why they love to start a flame war when a simple questions was asked. Its like Vishnu VS AL $hit.

 

ahhh yes, bait and switch with the dynojet chart. OK . . .

compare Az3ar's :



to Smog's chart (the lower-powered of the two)



You'll notice that Smog is still making more power.

. . . and a ton more torque. Most likely even after you mess with the smoothing

 

holy crap you are so **** beyond believe oh my god. Chris can you please knock him out for me.


Smog has so many supporting mods and so much race gas its not even funny. dude you need help.

 

The ONLY reason we came into this thread was to disprove your inacurate theory on stock turbos. not once did we say ANYTHING bad about the ATP kit. You claim you are here because you hate people giving misinformation.... the Hypocrisy in this thread is staggering. Jesus do a search for ATP in our forum and you will see that we actually say for mild HP the kit isnt a bad buy......but I guess we are always out to get ATP.

Eric

 

He did only run 98 octane on his race gas map. And his car was stock (no cams, nothing just a exhaust and the turbo kit FYI.

Chris

 

im more interested in 93 pump, with other supporting mods, such as injectors, 272's, gears, exhaust, intake, managment, etc. I dont or doubt ill ever be running race gas. I dont even really know where to find it.

 

OK OK the bash is over now. Im not telling anybody what to do but allot of people dont like when companies bash each other. There shouldnt be any need to do that and let your product stand out where it counts "on the track!"

Chris

 

it upsets us when people start rumors like this about our company. for a members on this board you may see it as mild rue or stab but it affects our buisness when customers read this...that in turn takes food out of our mouths. We are a very peacable company and do buisness with many companies in this field. Our buisness relationships mean alot to us as a company and as human beings. We are done with this thread and this was never intended to be a "bashing" of anything or anyone.

Eric

 

Very well put Eric! Its very understandable that you do have to stick up for your company. No doubt about that. So hey check you PM got a question about a certain part im thinking about if you dont mind

Chris

 

can we leave the threats of violence out of this please

Smog makes about 30 hp more on c16 than on pump. Take away 30 hp, and hes still within the same hp figure as you, and probably still making more torque.

 

If you are not planning on running race gas then this turbo kit is not for you. Do a search on the Vishnu forum and you will see where the ATP 3037 on pump makes roughly 10-15hp more then a car equipped with a 10.5 hotside.

 

Enough BS is enough.... ATP 3037 made 430WHP using AFC and dynoflash you just can imagine how much more it will make using Xede or AEM https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ight=3037+Dyno

I am looking for the dyno sheet and I will post it soon. ATP 3071 made 390WHP on stock EVO with straight cat (dyno on the forums) I have to look for it...


Show me a stock turbo making 390WHP with no cams and no IC and 0 supporting mods??

AMS. so its taking food from your mouth but not taking food from ATP mouth??? What miss information you see here?? now you want to convince me that the stock turbo when boosting 26~27 psi is not out of its efficiency rang and it will live for ever??

What you are saying is way off and please stop posting wrong and miss info to support your product which is already good but you are just making yourself look bad. Every ATP thread on this forum has an AMS response in it (search) AMS simply dislike ATP for there power and there great turbo upgrade period. You are just loosing one more customer. Do you see ATP posting here??? No because they are busy making sale and they basically don’t care as they are already selling a great cheap kit.