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Old Jan 17, 2003 | 10:01 AM
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Re: 32K is to much

Originally posted by OZzy OZborne
Don't know what everyone else is getting on a price tag my dealer is telling me 32-34K for an EVO and that is fn to much. what is your dealer telling you? :
So far I know its MSRP + options + destination charges + state tax ... and if they ask for more tell them to f*** off and go somewhere else
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Old Jan 17, 2003 | 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by Secret Chimp

Because the truth is, there's more to the production numbers than, "how many could we sell". Things like current production line capacity, parts availability, and available budget play into how many of a certain object can be made per period of time....So if the assembly line that makes the Evos in JP is at 90% capacity, now that it is making Evos for a few more markets than it was last year, than they really won't be able to increase production easily without spending lots of money upgrading it's facilities.
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Yeah, that's a good point. Unless has flexible manufacturing lines, Evo production will be limited by the capacity of whichever line they have implemented. I doubt they've invested millions in tooling for a car that is unproven in the U.S. market. It is senseless to justify spending truckloads of money on a new high-capacity production line if future sales volume is still a guess.
Chrysler screwed up with the PT Cruiser, though. They couldn't build them fast enough to meet the demand at first.
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Old Jan 17, 2003 | 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by ru4real

Yeah, that's a good point. Unless has flexible manufacturing lines, Evo production will be limited by the capacity of whichever line they have implemented. I doubt they've invested millions in tooling for a car that is unproven in the U.S. market. It is senseless to justify spending truckloads of money on a new high-capacity production line if future sales volume is still a guess.
Chrysler screwed up with the PT Cruiser, though. They couldn't build them fast enough to meet the demand at first.
I wouldn't say that Chrysler screwed up considering dealers were getting up to $12k over sticker b/c demand stayed so high.
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Old Jan 17, 2003 | 10:47 AM
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Chrysler did screw up producing the PT Cruiser. They based it off the neon chassis, so most all of the PTs (I think all of them) were made at the plant in my hometown. The daimler-chrysler plant here makes most all of the neons for the US. They had such a high demand for the neons all the time they couldn't just stop production of that so the PT had to take the back seat. Now does anyone know if mitsu's plant producing the evo produces many other cars too? If so you probably won't see a big increase in production. Just my .02
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Old Jan 17, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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PT Cruiser for MSRP is a ****ty deal. Wonder what people find so great about this car that they would pay 12k over sticker for.

Must've had too many
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Old Jan 17, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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Well I got that price striaght from the mans mouth on 32-34k . They are only getting ten and five are already spok'n for, so LIMITED is definetly the word and how long will it take them to get all ten?????????? Who knows! I live in Indy and that price is from Skillman and I am going to contact Family o ver the weekend That is all of them in Central Indy. So I am going to take a hard look at WRX and 350z for the 26K range. That is my budget and that is that, unless MMC or should I say my dealership can get that range on Any High Performance Lancer Evo or RM. Test drove 350z and I like it alot for the Money. My time is just around a year and its New car time and my budget will still be 26 .I will pic the biggest bang for the buck and that will still not get me a EVO for that price.
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Old Jan 17, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by RaX

The Evo is supposedly being built on a slowed assembly line. The extensive additional welding that goes into the Evo used to be done by hand. Sometime during the production of the VII, the production was shifted to a slowed assembly line that could handle this welding. So Mitsu will be able to produce more Evos than before, but nowhere near 50 or 60,000 cars a year...
Wasn't there like 200 spot welds on the evo7. I wonder if it's still the same for the U.S. evo8?
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Old Jan 18, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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Chrysler did screw up producing the PT Cruiser. They based it off the neon chassis, so most all of the PTs (I think all of them) were made at the plant in my hometown. The daimler-chrysler plant here makes most all of the neons for the US. They had such a high demand for the neons all the time they couldn't just stop production of that so the PT had to take the back seat.
Thats really funny, seeing as the PT Cruiser is built at the Toluca, Mexico plant....
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Old Jan 18, 2003 | 02:33 PM
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Totally off-topic, but Gatecrasher, have you ever been to Gatecrasher?
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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I just want to see what you all think, I am paying 34,000 for mine, I am getting red no moonroof, big wing,all destination fees and taxes included, guage cluster in mid console, pitpass, and some other dealer addons. Do you guys think that is a decent deal. I think its a fair deal, being that they stick to it. give me your thoughts.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 12:02 PM
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LOL!!! you think the dealer paid 25,5 for the evo from mitsu!!! think again. They'll be lucky if there is 2000 markup from invoice. Mitsu does not mark their cars up much from invoice. When I worked for mitsu selling cars....it seemed like every deal we ran on new cars was a mini deal. It sucked......but according to you, you think that there is roughly 3,500 dollars mark up on this car....NOT! I highly....highly....doubt it .
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by Sano
I just want to see what you all think, I am paying 34,000 for mine, I am getting red no moonroof, big wing,all destination fees and taxes included, guage cluster in mid console, pitpass, and some other dealer addons. Do you guys think that is a decent deal. I think its a fair deal, being that they stick to it. give me your thoughts.
Well, it depends on your definition of a "good deal".

Evo = $29000
Destfee appx 500
Gauges = 500
Pit pass = 600
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$30,600

Well, if your local State taxes are over 12% (which I highly doubt), then you got an average deal.....

If your state taxes are 5%, you are paying about $2000 over MSRP....I think that would be a horrible deal.

The other question to ask yourself is this. If you were to option up the car with dealer add-ons yourself, would you have added EVERYTHING to the list that the dealership has? If not, then you are paying for things you don't want/need....which also detracts from the opinion on whether you got a good deal.

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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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It's way too much. If you're gonna get rooked, I'd wait until the Ralliart Evo is released in the second or third round. At least you'll get your $$$ worth in aftermarket upgrades at that price.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 01:44 PM
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Mitsu EXPECTS to sell 4000-6000 cars in the US the fisrt year. It is not LIMITED to 4000-6000 cars. Tell me why they would choose to make it limited?
Cars aren't made on a per order basis. With the exception of some very unattainable exotics. Mitsu announced awhile ago they only plan to MAKE 6500 for the US. They probably expect to sell close to 6000 of those made. That's a limited production run. In case you didn't know most vehicles average around 20,000 units a year! The 350Z has over 30,000 made in it's first year. If only 6500 are coming to the US that's pretty friggin limited. And to tell you why they are only making so little is probably because of the specific genre of people this car will attract. Granted the WRX did well over here but Subaru has been around for quite awhile in the states. The Evolution and even the Lancer are new products to us. doesn't want to shoot itself by mass producing a car that might not sell.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by silkk0828
I went to my dealer today and he said theyre charging 35,000 and nothing less, i live in Indiana
I live in Bloomington IN, my local dealership is only getting 1 Evo on the first shipment. I have first right of refusal on it and I have it in writing that they are selling it to me for MSRP.
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