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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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There will be a lot of why's. Bottom line is the clutch and TC should have been made better = less complaints = more sales. If the ppm on the other cars from
is the same as the EVO they will be out of business. Just look at the # of compliants, unsatisfy customer vs the number of cars that was built. Sad to say that a company is not measure by number of cars that made it over 60K miles but by the number of cars that didn't, defect, complaints. It's a tough job!

All I know is this is my first and last Good luck to those who continue to be loyal to and those who have not seen any issues yet.
I think that all depends on who you talk to and who leaves out small details as to why their TC and clutch went. I changed my stock clutch at 22,000 miles. Ive abused that clutch mildy and did some stupid things with it. Its seen numerous dyno pulls, some launches and some aggressive highway driving/racing. Ive had over 300whp on it for nearly 12k miles. When i took mine out it still had alot of friction material left. So, i dont really understand how people who abuse their clutch and the small number that may not have, contribute to less or greater sales?

Then there could be the fact of RWD people coming over to AWD.

etc etc.

So i disagree. Id buy another EVO.
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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16K Miles with a gt3071r turbo kit and lots of other mods, and not 1 problem


But again, I don't launch the thing...I might have once or twice, and it didn't smell nice

So never again
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by blackevoVII
I think that all depends on who you talk to and who leaves out small details as to why their TC and clutch went. I changed my stock clutch at 22,000 miles. Ive abused that clutch mildy and did some stupid things with it. Its seen numerous dyno pulls, some launches and some aggressive highway driving/racing. Ive had over 300whp on it for nearly 12k miles. When i took mine out it still had alot of friction material left. So, i dont really understand how people who abuse their clutch and the small number that may not have, contribute to less or greater sales?

Then there could be the fact of RWD people coming over to AWD.

etc etc.

So i disagree. Id buy another EVO.
everyone have their own opinion however the concept of compliants = less sale is common sense. I've know a few people who did not buy an EVO because of this. Again to each their own.
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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i'm tired of ppl whining about that. this is yet another thread where ppl jump on the mitsu-bashing wagon. it's NOT a drag car!! don't launch it like ur life depends on it at every bloody traffic light. i'm sure the clutch will be just fine for many miles if you alternate between wild and practical driving. i've only launched it once, improperly (i came from FWD world) and i slipped it for too long at 4k rpm, needless to say it smelled. yet afterwards it worked just fine. i have some 4700 miles on the car. i think it also has a lot to do with how ppl slip it when they take off from a stop in normal daily driving. the way i do it, i slip it at about 1000-1500 rpm and by the time the car moves only 2-3 feet, the clutch is fully engaged. ppl, pleeeeease learn to drive stick dammit, and you won't have probs! i've had manual integra for only 3.5 years as my first manual car, and went through a few autox's plus some street launches, clutch is still GOOD (i think it might be original clutch too). with stock evo's hp clutch should be just fine.

now as far as the TC, it's the weak front differential on '03-'04 non RS models. i do wish my car had the front LSD, but i'm not worried about busting the open diff because i don't drop clutch.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by GOKOU
Just look at the # of compliants, unsatisfy customer vs the number of cars that was built.
I'd like to look at the numbers, but you haven't provided any.

Cabo
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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ppl, pleeeeease learn to drive stick dammit, and you won't have probs!

Amen.


Cabo
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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near 48k stock clutch
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GOKOU
There will be a lot of why's. Bottom line is the clutch and TC should have been made better = less complaints = more sales. If the ppm on the other cars from
is the same as the EVO they will be out of business. Just look at the # of compliants, unsatisfy customer vs the number of cars that was built. Sad to say that a company is not measure by number of cars that made it over 60K miles but by the number of cars that didn't, defect, complaints. It's a tough job!

All I know is this is my first and last Good luck to those who continue to be loyal to and those who have not seen any issues yet.
I would agree that new car parts should last a reasonable amount of time. AWD cars, however, are going to wear something if launched. How many Mustang owners went through a set of tires in 10,000 miles by spinning them excessively? How many Evo owners didn't fry their clutch? I have been monitoring the boards for over a year, and I'd estimate 1/2 of the people are happy with their clutch after driving the car hard, 1/2 are not. Is this better or worse than the wear parts on another make and model car or similar performance and cost? I really don't know. And neither do you.

To get this kind of performance from another manufacturer, you either have to pay more or face the same issues. The only other car in the ballpark on handling and price is the STi, and I see they have their share of problems as well.

You simply cannot drop the Evo clutch from high RPM, or wheel hop kills the transfer case. Slipping it too long (whether at launch or between gears, even downshifting) wears it out very quickly.

In daily driving, get the thing in and out quickly, the accelerate. Save the launches for when it counts; only when you're timed on a track.

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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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17.5k and its fine.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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32,000 miles with stock clutch WITH drag launches.


If you're not getting at least 30,000 out of your stock, it's either:

1. you can't drive, jack. Learn how to drive your manual transmission.

2. you're slipping it way too long

3. you're daily driving is a bit weary on the clutch - circumstancial or back to 1.

4. it's factory defect on the clutch parts, mostly on the bearing.

5. all of the above.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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About 40k driving it hard... but smart.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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16k miles, clutch started making a strange, faint noise upon engaging, at maybe 9 or 10k, but...still works fine, no slipping...i also always double clutch so my synchros BETTER last.
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