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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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EVO IX vs SRT-4 with Stage 3

I'm pondering the idea of the SRT4 with a stage 3 turbo upgrade instead of the EVO, just checking it out at this point- the srt4 would out well over 300hp....Obviously the handling would suck compared to the EVO, any opinions on this?
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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if you go to the track a lot and drag your car, then that idea sounds splendid.. but imo, i think it would just be "cooler" driving an evo ix.. not to say what many would and bi*** at you because you drive a "neon".. i think the srt-4 is hot, but cmon.. wouldn't you rather be seen in an evo?
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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Obviously you want a drag racer...and even though the Evo could handle that task it's not the best car for drag racing(launch is very critical in getting good times, and great launches require lots of skill...which you may or may not have). Stick with the Neon.....
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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evo, theres like 10 srt4s local our area that meets up where we all meet and a few of us evos and im sorry the neons look out of place and stupid at our meets its like rice boy go home.. so ya get an evo even if it would be stock for a while u will like it in long run better. and the srt4 is front wheel drive good luck hookin up when u do make power.....
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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SRT-4 will win. Stage 3 really isn't the upgrade of choice for the SRT-4. Most people with turbos run AGP or ATP turbo kits, I believe. Stage 1 SRT-4s could beat an Evo (depending on driver). Stage 2 SRT-4s can be hella fast. You need to understand that SRT-4s come sto9ck with 230 fwhp and 250 fwtq, which is about the same as a stock Evo (around 240 awhp and 235 awtq). If you want a car that is really, really fast in a straight line, the SRT-4 definitely does the job right. Whatever you choose, you will be having fun .

By the way, the handling isn't as bad as some people say. The Evo is far better in that respect (and brakes, too) but you get what you pay for. If you want, you can order an SRT-4 with the ACR package, and that should help the handling quite a bit. I would rather not focus on handling, however, because that is very subjective. I don't know enough about the SRT-4 to state the weakness in the suspension/body that causes the understeer, but I'm sure it has to do with the fact that it is FWD and has a lot of power. You will see that performance will be quite similar (probably more similar than you thought) between the two stock cars. Maybe a 1-2 second difference in lap times.

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Hey guys, thanks for the input- keep it coming! I think it will take alot to pull me away from the EVO, I really dig the AWD, and the handling is something that's really hard to give up....I don't see the SRT4 thing happeneing, just thinking about all of my options.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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If you really want the Evo, get it. You will never be satisfied with another car if you crave an Evo. You probably should have said that in the first place. This is why people say "it's still a Neon." It could be fast as hell, but if you want an Evo, you don't want something else.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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EVO will have a lot of potential for modding...
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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^^ true.dat
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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So does the SRT-4... I would say that the engines are comparably strong and responsive to modding. It really boils down to money, and what you really want. I believe that the SRT-4 engine is not quite as strong as the 4G63, but at some point, you will need to blueprint/build the either engines, and those points are close.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by wEstSidE
If you really want the Evo, get it. You will never be satisfied with another car if you crave an Evo. You probably should have said that in the first place. This is why people say "it's still a Neon." It could be fast as hell, but if you want an Evo, you don't want something else.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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I never though of myself as that!
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by wEstSidE
SRT-4 will win. Stage 3 really isn't the upgrade of choice for the SRT-4. Most people with turbos run AGP or ATP turbo kits, I believe. Stage 1 SRT-4s could beat an Evo (depending on driver). Stage 2 SRT-4s can be hella fast. You need to understand that SRT-4s come sto9ck with 230 fwhp and 250 fwtq, which is about the same as a stock Evo (around 240 awhp and 235 awtq). If you want a car that is really, really fast in a straight line, the SRT-4 definitely does the job right. Whatever you choose, you will be having fun .

By the way, the handling isn't as bad as some people say. The Evo is far better in that respect (and brakes, too) but you get what you pay for. If you want, you can order an SRT-4 with the ACR package, and that should help the handling quite a bit. I would rather not focus on handling, however, because that is very subjective. I don't know enough about the SRT-4 to state the weakness in the suspension/body that causes the understeer, but I'm sure it has to do with the fact that it is FWD and has a lot of power. You will see that performance will be quite similar (probably more similar than you thought) between the two stock cars. Maybe a 1-2 second difference in lap times.
Not to to be mean, but have you driven and/or worked on both cars? Go put a stage 3 on a SRT-4 and try to run the 1/4 mile without 24" drag tires. The bad thing about adding too much to the SRT to make it keep up with an EVO is the fact that it's still FWD and can't get traction. Get the IX and have a flash done, you'll be more than happy with it and SOOO glad you didn't get a neon.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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Go put a stage 3 on a SRT-4 and try to run the 1/4 mile without 24" drag tires. The bad thing about adding too much to the SRT to make it keep up with an EVO is the fact that it's still FWD and can't get traction.
This is true, and is definitely the downside of any FWD car. Like I said, he'd be happier with a IX. Anyway, I've never touched or seen any of the cars, because I am a pusillanimous seven year old child who likes to spend his time e-thuggin on the interweb.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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LOL, e-thuggin. hahaha.

Anyway, you guys are right about the neon and it's traction, with the disgusting amount of boost that would be coming out of the stage 3, the tires would be squeeking, sqauking, and slipping in all gears. I'm glad I posted this thread- now I really have no desire to even think about the SRT4 anymore.
Originally Posted by wEstSidE
This is true, and is definitely the downside of any FWD car. Like I said, he'd be happier with a IX. Anyway, I've never touched or seen any of the cars, because I am a pusillanimous seven year old child who likes to spend his time e-thuggin on the interweb.
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