Is it safe to use Redline lubricants
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I dont see how people are saying it feels better.. if it feels better then something has changed..meaning its probably no where near thick enough to prevent the melt down of driveline parts! Im wondering how many people out there that have all these various problems are running something other then DiaQueen. Why not get the HD DiaQueen thats used in the MR TC? I find it hard to believe that any product you can find in your local auto parts store is better then this stuff.. what do you think ralliart uses in their rally program? not redline.. thats for sure.
While you're technically OK as long as you use fluids that meet the specs in the owner's manual, unless you very carefully document your fluid changes, you're going to be at a serious disadvantage if a problem comes up. If you stick with the OEM fluids, changed on the OEM schedule, or sooner, and changed and documented by a Mitsu dealer, you won't have to do anything to convince Mitsu that the problem was due to fluids. There could potentially be thousands of dollars at stake. Why take a chance?
If you do change your fluids/filters, be sure to document the date and mileage, and save your receipts.
If you do change your fluids/filters, be sure to document the date and mileage, and save your receipts.
Originally Posted by MalibuJack
I STRONGLY suggest using the recommended oils from Mitsubishi, there really isn't anything to gain from using aftermarket stuff except headaches.
[QUOTE=Rob W.] I've found that most of the ones I hear people mention on here (like BG Syncromesh) are actually GL5, which is not recommended by Mitsu for an EVO. QUOTE]
BG syncroshift is not GL5?? Are u sure?
BG syncroshift is not GL5?? Are u sure?
keep your receipts, log the miles, buy the better fluid, do the work yourself, and enjoy your car... they can not hold you by your ballz for basic maintainence, AND, if it says it meets or exceeds the factory requests, they can not void your warranty... don't give dealerships an edge where you have to play by their rules, and give them a future where we're locked in a **** camp...
only thing i would put in the OEM fluid in is the rear differential... I used Redline before, with, limited success, but, noticed the fluids would stay cleaner, ran smoother, was less oil consumption with Royal Purple, and RP is a lil' cheaper than Redline last i checke.... heck, someone on here even said some Dealerships they knew use the stuff... you won't be disappointed... trust me...
only thing i would put in the OEM fluid in is the rear differential... I used Redline before, with, limited success, but, noticed the fluids would stay cleaner, ran smoother, was less oil consumption with Royal Purple, and RP is a lil' cheaper than Redline last i checke.... heck, someone on here even said some Dealerships they knew use the stuff... you won't be disappointed... trust me...
Call Jon at TRE(team RIPP) he gets these TC's in and trannys constantly, he knows his stuff! he goes by the name Gears on this site. talk to an expert. you dont go to your Dentist for a Proctology exam do you? people on this site might "like" the product, but you are asking if its SAFE! call someone who knows if it is. Jon at team Ripp, I highly reccomend him!
I used 2 different redline mt-90/mtl blends in the trans. prior to the last change. This time I tried pennzoil synchromesh. There was an absolute night and day difference between the two. With the syncromesh the shifts are MUCH, smoother.
Also, I've been using Royal Purple max gear SAE-90 for the rear diff and t-case. I pmed TME in regard to this and they recommended going back to the diaqueen. I don't quite understand this though, as the two fluids are of the exact same rating(SAE-90 GL5). Oh well, mybee I'll change back next time.
Also, I've been using Royal Purple max gear SAE-90 for the rear diff and t-case. I pmed TME in regard to this and they recommended going back to the diaqueen. I don't quite understand this though, as the two fluids are of the exact same rating(SAE-90 GL5). Oh well, mybee I'll change back next time.
Originally Posted by Slowride
]If you stick with the OEM fluids, changed on the OEM schedule, or sooner, and changed and documented by a Mitsu dealer, you won't have to do anything to convince Mitsu that the problem was due to fluids.
Originally Posted by MaxR
Using OEM fluids to insure your car gets warranty coverage is pointless. Dealers can make up any excuse to void a warranty.
"Why would they not use Redline for the OEM if it was better?"
That's just a silly thing to say. Why don't they use carbon fiber for all the body panels? Because of cost, obviously! Do you honestly think the EVO is some holy grail car that will get the very best of everything? If it did, it'd cost a lot more than $30K.
Really though, here's what I want: I want the very best fluid I can buy for my EVO, at any price (and I don't believe it likely that that fluid would be the OEM stuff). I want it to make the shifting smoother (an impossible but ideal target would be the Honda S2000). I want it to meet all Mitsu requirements to keep my warranty valid. I want it to fix the intermittent 1-->2 grind I've had since 400 miles that the dealer can't seem to reproduce. My experience with Z cars says that Redline is just about the best you can get. My experience on my EVO (and reading on here) says that Redine is not necessarily a step up from stock fluid for EVO gearboxes. I don't believe the hype that it kills EVO hardware. Sorry, I just don't. If it meets GL4 and still killed our gearboxes, then our boxes must be constructed of flowers and good intentions.. I hope they're a little more durable/less sensitive than that.
Now, with that in mind, can anyone recommend an oil that'll meet all those requirements above? Royal Purple? Amsoil? Syncromech? I'm open to trying anything, as this Redline MT-90 has made shifting more notchy than stock (mainly when cold).
Rob
That's just a silly thing to say. Why don't they use carbon fiber for all the body panels? Because of cost, obviously! Do you honestly think the EVO is some holy grail car that will get the very best of everything? If it did, it'd cost a lot more than $30K.
Really though, here's what I want: I want the very best fluid I can buy for my EVO, at any price (and I don't believe it likely that that fluid would be the OEM stuff). I want it to make the shifting smoother (an impossible but ideal target would be the Honda S2000). I want it to meet all Mitsu requirements to keep my warranty valid. I want it to fix the intermittent 1-->2 grind I've had since 400 miles that the dealer can't seem to reproduce. My experience with Z cars says that Redline is just about the best you can get. My experience on my EVO (and reading on here) says that Redine is not necessarily a step up from stock fluid for EVO gearboxes. I don't believe the hype that it kills EVO hardware. Sorry, I just don't. If it meets GL4 and still killed our gearboxes, then our boxes must be constructed of flowers and good intentions.. I hope they're a little more durable/less sensitive than that.
Now, with that in mind, can anyone recommend an oil that'll meet all those requirements above? Royal Purple? Amsoil? Syncromech? I'm open to trying anything, as this Redline MT-90 has made shifting more notchy than stock (mainly when cold).
Rob
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but the diaqueen is much more expensive fluid.. check the price on it. its not like it was a cost saving on mitsubishis part to bring over an odd fluid when they could just use what is available in the usa at every autoparts store..doesnt really make sense???


