Get the LS1....hell, get a Firehawk if you can find it. Those who say a T/A is useful only in a straight line have no idea what a decently modified T/A can do - sure, it's not 'rally-bred', but it can hold it's own quite well. I've had an LT1 and then the LS1 and will once again own an LS1 soon enough - nothing hotter looking then a T/A sitting on TorqueThrust II's, either. Also...more comfortable, gets more chicks (lol), T-roofs are hella nice to have, and the interior (w/ leather) is a very nice option. You do lose trunk space (haha), but I doubt that's a concern.

 

True, the Evo has a Cd of 0.36 and the C5 coupe had a Cd of 0.29. I wouldnt think this difference would be felt until much higher speeds though.

 

NOTHING about a GM interior is nice. NOTHING.

How is it more comfy? Maybe in the front seats(opinion only) but you can't fit a damn duffle bag in the backseat...much less someone's a$$

 

yeah $1500 without any installs. war was saying about 2k in his first post. so edit all your last posts to read "about 2k" b/c war never said $1500. your goping to argue that if war had a dp and cams he wouldn't improve his 1/4 by .2-.3 seconds? if so i have been badly misinformed to the difference that cams can make and that the dp is the most restrictive aprt on the car. for the sake of argument then, throw on an alchy kit or a TME turbo (or hopefully the 06s will have the titanium internals and you could get one for real cheap) and were talking less then 3k total with installs if you can do some of the easy stuff. 05s will be well into the 11s with all of that and if you get an RS you will be up to 32k with a high to mid 11s car that can handle like crazy.

 

You don't see people in the 11s with these basic mods at this price, because of 2 main things:

1) They buy superfluous mods like you listed in your "staged upgrade" argument that started all of this, which means they have MORE mods than I listed AND they pay more than what I listed

2) Most people don't know how to drive. Drag racing is not as easy as people think. The launch is half the battle, then shifting does the rest. Those are 2 separate skills that many THINK they have, but simply do not. I consider a car to be 11-sec capable if I can get in it and pull 11.99. Just because most people get 12.3 at 113 with 345-350whp doesn't mean the mods/car aren't capable of 11s.

Anyway, I was at $875 in mods on my 12.22, and that's only if you include my S-AFC fields harness (not needed to go fast; only got it to fool the dealer) and my logging device (again not needed to go fast, but a good tool for proper tuning). I will next be adding a free 3" downpipe and free 3" test pipe along with free installation thanks to The Speed Factor. Additionally, they will be installing my new Walbro 255 that cost me $50 new. That puts me at $925 invested in parts myself, and another $250 (rough guess) in total go-fast parts. At $1175, I will be knocking on the door of 11s in what will probably be 90-degree heat in the middle of August. Who knows how much easier it would be in 50-degree November weather?

 

Agree but the mods listed (MBC, TBE, cams, and tune) line up pretty well with Vishnu's stage1+ and BR stage1 + cams. Two very popular packages.

Agree. Driver has a huge influence but there are a lot of very good drivers across this country. Many that take your same approach to modifiing (doing their own research and tuning) and piecing together the best-bang-for-the-buck mod list.

Keep us posted. Pretty impressive to take 1 second off your 1/4 time for less than $900.

 

It has nothing to do with tiny displacement. Its called power and gearing. The C5 has a slight advantage of better top end gearing (esp with 6 speeds) and also, inherenly MORE POWER. I guess its because you dont have cams your car feels that way but I have had no problem pulling a C5 in 4th gear on the Parkway. My car feels extremely strong in 4th and 5th gear. A couple friends that were with me could not believe how quick my 4th gear was (when going from a 65-70 roll-on).

 

Well that's good to hear, something to look forward to when I do cams. Im also thinking it's the huge torque differences between the two cars that helps haul the LS1 at speed.

 

Wow this has turned into quite a thread, thanks for all the response's

 

Wow, I'm continually surprised by all these "Should I get an evo or car X?" threads. Honestly come on, if you need to ask, just go buy whatever the other car is, the evo is not for you.

 

That vette had an easy 75whp advantage on you. I think you did well in that dream No one ever said a stock EVO is faster than a stock LS1... mostly in part because theyre not even close to being as quick... from a stop to a certain mph... yes but otherwise no.

I had a dream the other night, actually like 2 weeks ago, I raced a black C5 6speed with some mods (at least exhaust/intake) not sure about headers or such, I didnt get to talk with him, but we went from 1st gear roll-ons and by the top of 4th gear he was 4 cars back (almost a bus length)! The cams and tune is what you need (and of course TBE)

 

Im sorry I didnt mean to waste your o so valuable time. I quess I never had the luxury to know I would always someday get an Evo.

 

last I checked the vette weighed in around 3150 lbs.

 

Check again. The Z06 (which is an LS6, not what we're talking about) weighs 3150. The coupe runs in right around 3300.

 

I don't know about you, but I evaluate comfort in a car that I buy, y'know, based on the drivers' seat.