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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Just changed out my stock rotors and got some 2 piece rotors, i can definetly feel an acceleration difference, and thats with stock rims! Go for some light weight rotors and rims and you'll feel a difference!
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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On my Isuzu I ripped out about 300 lbs of crap and it cost zero dollars. That does not include removing bumper bars, they were left on. Weight reduction is a very cost effective means of increasing both acceleration and handling. It does not have to cost you any money at all, just a little time.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Impulsoren
On my Isuzu I ripped out about 300 lbs of crap and it cost zero dollars. That does not include removing bumper bars, they were left on. Weight reduction is a very cost effective means of increasing both acceleration and handling. It does not have to cost you any money at all, just a little time.
100% correct!
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Impulsoren
On my Isuzu I ripped out about 300 lbs of crap and it cost zero dollars. That does not include removing bumper bars, they were left on. Weight reduction is a very cost effective means of increasing both acceleration and handling. It does not have to cost you any money at all, just a little time.

agree
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by giumela
Guys this post turned into a mess. Everyone has a somewhat of an opinion or a joke about weight reduction. Some of this stuff about weight reduction is good but the majority of it are basically half A$$ explanations. Unless you do some hardcore racing please do not worry about weight reduction. There are guys out there that with 4 PhD trying to figure out the best balance for a car. Remember that an ideal car has a 50-50 weight ditribution which the Evo does not(it's 60-40), and removing weight from one end will upset some other variable on the other end. Just learn how to drive the Evo to it's limits on a nice track(not a drag strip) and then worry about making weight modifications to it(contact some professionals)....and yes weight reduction does make a huge difference in Racing(reduced lap times)....but not that much on the street. Drive fast and safe!....on the track
feel free to come to a chitown meet and i will gladly show you how much more my rs pulls with less weight. i agree w/ not dramatically messing with mitsu's weight distribution. however removing weight from the front half of the car will make it more 50/50.

and lowering weight on the tires and rims will make the 60-40 ratio even worse. lets say the car weighs 3200 1920 front, 1280 back. remove 100lbs front 100lbs back. now you weigh 3000 1820 front, 1180 back. that's 60.7-39.3 so lowering the weight of our wheels will make our evo even more front end heavy.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Sayajin
Try to keep in mind guys, I am not talking about a 1000LB difference. Of course that is a hell of a difference. I am talking about a 100-400LB difference. I obviously understand the basic mathematics behind it, even a child could. What I am asking is from a cost/benefit standpoint is it a big difference? Not is it a difference at all, is it a SIGNIFIGANT difference for the cost? I mean would you spend $2000 extra dollars ona turbo that was going to give you 15hp extra? Obviously the same car with a 100LB kid and a 500LB kid in it will run different times. I mean does spending $2000 on losing 300LBs in my car justify .3 seconds? Why not spend 2k on a performance mod that will give you .4 seconds?


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and why not buy a turbo kit for 2000$ to loose 4 sec,and reduce the weight to loose another 3secs,so then you together loose 7 sec.not????
reducing weight is the cheapest and most effective mod,in the world.
why the F1 has power like crazy and also ist light like a nothing with 4 wheels.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dino21
and why not buy a turbo kit for 2000$ to loose 4 sec,and reduce the weight to loose another 3secs,so then you together loose 7 sec.not????
reducing weight is the cheapest and most effective mod,in the world.
why the F1 has power like crazy and also ist light like a nothing with 4 wheels.
FIVE YEARS MAN!!!


FIVE ****ING YEARS!!!




What the Hell is wrong with you?

At any rate. Drag racing is boring. Weight reduction makes a HUGE difference in real racing. End of story.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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FIVE YEARS MAN!!!
FIVE ****ING YEARS!!!

What the Hell is wrong with you?
At any rate. Drag racing is boring. Weight reduction makes a HUGE difference in real racing. End of story.
hahah i didnt look at the date..sorry.but i laught at your answerr.hahahaha 5 years f....5 year.hahaha

im also trying to reduce some weight ,but i love me sub,and my stereo,and its hard for me leave it in garage,but when iam going to track,im always putting the rear seat and the sub and amp,out of my car.even i flush the window fluid,and trying to have 1/2 of tank even less.but for the street driving i have just everything inside...
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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i found irony all over the boards with weight reduction. People spent crazy amounts of money to save 10-15 lbs of weight but are also 30 lbs overweight themselves. you think they would keep their diet in check.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by igo4bmx
i found irony all over the boards with weight reduction. People spent crazy amounts of money to save 10-15 lbs of weight but are also 30 lbs overweight themselves. you think they would keep their diet in check.
Fully agree with this. Spend 300 dollars for a year gym membership and drop some weight. Or... if you're just overly muscular, lay in bed for a month. Cheap, easy, effective, and doesn't cause any changes in your car's setup.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 05:46 PM
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Is Weight Reduction REALLY that much of a difference?

is a snowball fight with pitching legend randy johnson a bad idea?
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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I think that gutting your car, removing your a/c, hvac system, rear seats, etc on your street car is dumb. What's the point? A couple tenths in the quarter mile when 99% of the time you'll be on the streat where it will matter even less. You'll be sitting there in a traffic jam sweating bullets with no radio and heat coming through the floorboards since there is no carpet. I'd bet you won't even notice a performance gain by pulling the a/c system.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by italianevo88
Is Weight Reduction REALLY that much of a difference?

is a snowball fight with pitching legend randy johnson a bad idea?
YES just ask that bird how it was to get in the way of randys fastball
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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LOL @ reviving an old *** thread
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by evotuner04
LOL @ reviving an old *** thread
+1

but anyhow, I was thinking of ditching the a/c since I mostly track the car and out of the past year only used a/c once or twice.
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