Trade My Car 4 a Skyline????
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Originally Posted by Blackie9900
not an m spec... i would understand an r32 gtr or an r34 gtr... but not an r33.. i personally hate the way they look especially the mspec
I agree with most. stick with your Evo. Your Evo is so sick. It is fast, it looks great, AWD and is probably a blast to drive. But to each there own, and goog luck with your decision. Buy what makes you happy, not everyone else. I do like skylines and it would be cool to drive a RHD vehicle, but I would only go with the GTR R34.
Hey...btw...are you going to bandi sunday???
Hey...btw...are you going to bandi sunday???
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Originally Posted by smokey
I agree with most. stick with your Evo. Your Evo is so sick. It is fast, it looks great, AWD and is probably a blast to drive. But to each there own, and goog luck with your decision. Buy what makes you happy, not everyone else. I do like skylines and it would be cool to drive a RHD vehicle, but I would only go with the GTR R34.
Hey...btw...are you going to bandi sunday???
Hey...btw...are you going to bandi sunday???
Originally Posted by Turbo13
Yeah I am starting to think that. No plans to go to Bandi as of yet.
We will all be ther at Bandi on Sunday. I am not racing but going to watch the races. I would like to see your car. I haven't seen it since you did all that work.
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Originally Posted by smokey
We will all be ther at Bandi on Sunday. I am not racing but going to watch the races. I would like to see your car. I haven't seen it since you did all that work.
Originally Posted by mdosu
I would not make the trade. A RWD RB25 R33 is one of the least desired Skylines out there. You need 2 of those 3 combinations to be either AWD, RB26, and R34.
I would much rather keep the Evo as it's more reliable and probably a better car.
BTW, I saw the How-To swap for the RB26DETT 240sx in Modified Mag. Now that is one unique car...it has no room for air conditioning as I recall, and they used a RB25 tranny b/c it was probably the most readily available one...I would almost say that car is worth 30k because of the headache of putting one together...
I would much rather keep the Evo as it's more reliable and probably a better car.
BTW, I saw the How-To swap for the RB26DETT 240sx in Modified Mag. Now that is one unique car...it has no room for air conditioning as I recall, and they used a RB25 tranny b/c it was probably the most readily available one...I would almost say that car is worth 30k because of the headache of putting one together...
The 240SX is nice, but I don't think your EVO is a much better car. It may be as fast as your EVO, but it sure can't handle like your EVO, or stop like your EVO. I mean it's truely not a fair trade. Your 400-420WHP is a much more attractive buy in my opinion. Also the RB26 swap is not as unique as you think, not a lot of people who own 240SX have done it, but it has been done a substantial amount of times. One of my good friend's boyfriend has the same swap, and there are plenty others who have it too.
The Skyline is a different story, but the only reason I can see you get it for, is because it's a Skyline and it's very rare. But other than that it's really not a better buy. If you've grown tired of your EVO and want another car, then that's fine, but in my opinion, the two cars you are interested in are not worth it. IMHO you'd be down grading, not upgrading.
The Skyline is a different story, but the only reason I can see you get it for, is because it's a Skyline and it's very rare. But other than that it's really not a better buy. If you've grown tired of your EVO and want another car, then that's fine, but in my opinion, the two cars you are interested in are not worth it. IMHO you'd be down grading, not upgrading.
Originally Posted by Blackie9900
NICE.. ctneman or w/e .. did he end up fixing the head gaskit and take it back to the dyno/.?
My vote is: Keep the EVO
Most of us know that the GTR has the RB26DETT power plant that is a 24Valve DOHC w/ 6 throttle inlet and multiport injection with factory is twin Garrett T28 Turbos and a calsonic front mount intercooler. The motor is rated at 280/260 due to Japanese laws but it really makes more like 300/300, and in the R34 w/ the revised headdesign and engine management, more like 340/340. The RB26 is severly detuned from the factory as it was designed for Japanese GT500 competition. The motor is easily tuneable to the 600 horse mark without internal work, and well over 1000 reliably w/ a built setup.
What really makes a GT-R work is ATTESA-ETS ( Advanced Total Traction Engineering System for Electronic Torque Split ). The car is inherintly RWD, until it loses traction, and the computer corrects the drive bias front/rear electronically, real time, till it ends up split totally 50/50 and engages the side/side limited slip. It uses a 16 Bit microprocessor in the R32 and R33, 32 Bit in the R34; and assesses the cars movements 100 times per second. ATTESA monitors wheel rotation and lateral as well as longitudinal acceleration. When slip is detected at a driving wheel, the system electronically distributes torque from this spinning wheel to one without slip. Tuning computers can override it and manipulate it to make a GTR drift, or stick really really well. You can launch the car from 9 grand and get no wheelspin because in the first second, the drivetrain has shifted bias and ratio 100 times.
The R34 is the special piece of machine, being the newest, it obviously has the most technology. The ECU and ATTESA computer are buffed up and the car has a couple of different models and special editions. Theres the V-Spec and V-SpecII ( Victory Specification) that have stiffer bound suspension, Brembro brakes, thicker sways, etc.
So, in short . . . . I wouldn't trade for a GTS-T. It just isn't the same car as the GTR that we all drool over. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles and isn't the technical marvel the GTR is . . . its more of a street muscle car. I drove a GTS-T . . . an R33 I believe . . . while I was vacationing in AUS. I wasn't overly impressed. It is certainly a nice car but you would be trading performance in your Evo to make a bunch of ricers say wow.
What really makes a GT-R work is ATTESA-ETS ( Advanced Total Traction Engineering System for Electronic Torque Split ). The car is inherintly RWD, until it loses traction, and the computer corrects the drive bias front/rear electronically, real time, till it ends up split totally 50/50 and engages the side/side limited slip. It uses a 16 Bit microprocessor in the R32 and R33, 32 Bit in the R34; and assesses the cars movements 100 times per second. ATTESA monitors wheel rotation and lateral as well as longitudinal acceleration. When slip is detected at a driving wheel, the system electronically distributes torque from this spinning wheel to one without slip. Tuning computers can override it and manipulate it to make a GTR drift, or stick really really well. You can launch the car from 9 grand and get no wheelspin because in the first second, the drivetrain has shifted bias and ratio 100 times.
The R34 is the special piece of machine, being the newest, it obviously has the most technology. The ECU and ATTESA computer are buffed up and the car has a couple of different models and special editions. Theres the V-Spec and V-SpecII ( Victory Specification) that have stiffer bound suspension, Brembro brakes, thicker sways, etc.
So, in short . . . . I wouldn't trade for a GTS-T. It just isn't the same car as the GTR that we all drool over. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles and isn't the technical marvel the GTR is . . . its more of a street muscle car. I drove a GTS-T . . . an R33 I believe . . . while I was vacationing in AUS. I wasn't overly impressed. It is certainly a nice car but you would be trading performance in your Evo to make a bunch of ricers say wow.
The R33 is the weakest of the modern Skyline platforms. The non GT-R versions are really just family sedans with a turbo strapped on. The GT-R version is very special and the GT, GT-S, GTS-T, etc. are honestly not worth trading your Evo for.
Have you thought about maintainence(sp)? I wouldn't think getting it repaired or getting oem parts would be that easy. Aftermarket maybe but oem? I say talk to the guys at rbmotoring last I checked they were one of the few skyline legalizers in the US. They know all there is to.



