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can i run alky kit without tuneing?

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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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my friends keep pushing me to just run the alky kit....well i guess i got to wait till get tuned
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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You would probably lose power as your so rich.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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i was messing around one time on expressway just to see how bad it would be. I switched to my no methanol map and flipped the switch to turn my pump on. If I kept the car around 10 psi it would bog so bad. I looked at my AFR guage and was in the low 8's. Running methanol without the proper tune it would be worthless.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:15 AM
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You would probably lose power as your so rich.
this is why i m leaning out a/f ratio by raising the boost to like 25psi... i hop i dont lean it out too much by doin this.......
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by yesevo
this is why i m leaning out a/f ratio by raising the boost to like 25psi... i hop i dont lean it out too much by doin this.......
The car will still run rich. Boost pressure will not matter. The MAF will still read load for the ECU. Above 19 lbs the car will run pig rich will alky.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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How much WHP can Alky add, properly tuned, on a stock turbo Vs. 93 octane?
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 04:50 AM
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25-35 hp on a stock turbo
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 06:06 AM
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i thought it add 40-50whp the most?
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 06:25 AM
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depends what substance you use and what concentration.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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i got one new Q........what happend if there is leak in vacuum hose where it feeds to alky kit?
you gonna blow the engine right?
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 06:56 AM
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Denatured is ethanol with a percentage of methanol
Just out of curiousity why don't you run denatured?
When you run that aren't you able to only tweak the boost a tad rather than running pure meth able to run high boost. TTrix was saying in one post all meth on a 35r you could run 30psi with 93 oct.

I run it at 20psi on 93. I just installed Alchy, but don't know where to find pure meth so on windshield washer fluid which has some meth in it am I able to up the boost at all? Or just run cooler intake temps and tweak the timing a bit?
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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When you run that aren't you able to only tweak the boost a tad rather than running pure meth able to run high boost. TTrix was saying in one post all meth on a 35r you could run 30psi with 93 oct.

I run it at 20psi on 93. I just installed Alchy, but don't know where to find pure meth so on windshield washer fluid which has some meth in it am I able to up the boost at all? Or just run cooler intake temps and tweak the timing a bit?
We just tuned an AMS 35R kit. 50/50 Ethanol. Almost 30 pounds. Absolutely No detonation on 93 octane fuel. The only reason we did'nt go any higher was for the fact that his ignition system started to misfire slightly because of the denser charge.
Another MR had come in with methanol. Made the same power at 28 lbs with both meth and eth. The numbers are very minute.
Just my two cents. The benefits of water and alky have been explored but people have really not taken them to extremes yet.
For the record, with a good tune on a 35R you should be able to get 32-33 lbs on methanol and pump gas 93. We will find out as the car that was on the dyno two days ago made 412 WHP on ethanol at 28.5 lbs of boost. It will be back next week for ignition upgrades and we will see just how much can be made on denatured.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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Nick I got a couple questions ti discuss, do you have a number you could pm me to reach you at?
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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what they said, also if ur going to do that then save the extra money to tune it, why not, u got the alc kit for performance so why not just go the whole way and do it right.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Nesiop
Nick I got a couple questions ti discuss, do you have a number you could pm me to reach you at?
Here is the number (856) 495 2227
Call us any time. We are going on a road trip this weekend to florida for tuning.
ALL calls will be diverted to our cell phones to help customers.

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