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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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Is it safe to drive with mods with out a tune or flash

I plane on doing Buschur stage 4 all at once, but I know I can’t install all of the parts in one day,

Is it safe to drive around with all these mods with out a tune, it will take me at least a week part time to finish, then the closes dynoflash is 4 hrs a way

the parts include

cams
intake
fuel pump
injectors
fmic


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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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Set aside a whole weekend, have someone help you too. And yes you need to tune it.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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i think you will have real trouble with those injectors under part throttle. everything on there needs to be tuned.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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no sh*t, I am going to tune it, but like I said before, closes dynoflash is 4hrs away

will the trip be safe on the way down

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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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Leave the injectors out until you get a tune or you probably won't run to good. You can drive around with all the other parts fine but will get a more beneficial gain from the parts once your car is tuned.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo#1
I plane on doing Buschur stage 4 all at once, but I know I can’t install all of the parts in one day,

Is it safe to drive around with all these mods with out a tune, it will take me at least a week part time to finish, then the closes dynoflash is 4 hrs a way

the parts include

cams
intake
fuel pump
injectors
fmic


Thank for the help
You will run horribly horribly HORRIBLY rich. Hold off on the fuel pump and injector install until you get to Dynoflash and install them in the parking lot. Those can be done in under an hour. You can get by with just the cams in w/o problems.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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Thanks for the info guys, seems like a pain in the *** but thats what you get for wanting a 400whp Evo!

Its going to be one hell of day!!
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Thanks for the info guys, seems like a pain in the *** but thats what you get for wanting a 400whp Evo!

Its going to be one hell of day!!
unless you have a turbo upgrade or alcohol injection kit that you're planning on installing as well, you're going to fall well short of the 400whp mark with those mods.

I'd expect 325-350whp.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 01:18 PM
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Just send your ECU to them and they will flash and send back. You just give them a list of your mods and they will tune it and send back in 2 days....
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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Just send your ECU to them and they will flash and send back. You just give them a list of your mods and they will tune it and send back in 2 days....
That wouldn't be as good as a custom dyno tune on the spot. A mail-in flash is just basic.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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thats a good point, buts its better then driving 4 hours and ruining your car all together....
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by anjapower
unless you have a turbo upgrade or alcohol injection kit that you're planning on installing as well, you're going to fall well short of the 400whp mark with those mods.

I'd expect 325-350whp.
Buschur says 380 with there stage 4 http://www.buschurracing.com/stage4.htm

and yes I plan on getting the alky kit also, but undecided about there 20g, I'm probable going to wait untill the work out the surging problems
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
That wouldn't be as good as a custom dyno tune on the spot. A mail-in flash is just basic.
Maybe I can work something out with dynoflash just to get me down there safe
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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BR "Stage 4" comes with an SAFC which would be your tuning device. They include a "stage 4" specific map. Are you upgrading to a standalone or something?
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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I don't know how the Evo's ECU operates, but on STis you DEFINITELY need to do an ECU tune. I would assume it's the same with an Evo, especially after upgrading with major mods such as a cam.
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