350-400 HP daily driver
I'd stick with the manual boost controller. Either a hallman or a Forge Unos. Not only is it cheaper, its more reliable. Al's sub 10 sec evo runs a Forge MBC.
Originally Posted by davidbuschur
... I think I could have tuned it up to 25 psi of boost and made more. I attempted to turn up the boost with the electronic boost controller that was in the car it didn't go up. I HATE electronic boost controllers, each one needs a dictionary to tell you how to use it. Give me a manual.
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http://www.vishnutuning.com/evo_Stage1_v360.htm
That gives you an idea of how easy it is to get the evo in the 350-400 range, and how cheap it can be if you spend right.
That gives you an idea of how easy it is to get the evo in the 350-400 range, and how cheap it can be if you spend right.
Go with Buschur Racing, his staged packages all have a BR ECU Flash to go with them and work great. I ran 11's on his mail-in Flash and a stage 4 car. Drive the car daily with 2 kids seats in the back.
talk to matt @ slickmotorsports, 350-400 daily is no problemo...
he has evodave, evo8whoa and me, slickevo18 all running 500 plus, dave drives his acura daily, but dean and i run our's daily, troublefree.... mine and dave are still have stock block too.... plus matt's frabrication is second to none, retarted awsome.
he has evodave, evo8whoa and me, slickevo18 all running 500 plus, dave drives his acura daily, but dean and i run our's daily, troublefree.... mine and dave are still have stock block too.... plus matt's frabrication is second to none, retarted awsome.
Thanks for the excellent replies. Very good information . After digesting what some people wrote I have some follow up food for thought questions.
Seems that the larger injectors are out. Overkill. But several people mentioned a stronger fuel pump. Fuel pump seems like a pretty cheap add on. I think they run like $90. So I expect I will probably get one even if its benefit is marginal.
Some have suggested that cams and cam gears would be overkill. Question is, why do I see so many people with HKS 272 cams in their rides. Almost every article/website/ride has these or similar cams. To me it makes sense to maximize the potential of the engine. The better it breathes the greater the potential, right? Or is this not right?
A turbo back exhaust system seems a given. I have a magnaflow cat back, so in theory I can get away with a test pipe and possibly a down pipe. Not that expensive.
Lots of people have the intercooler upgraded. To me swapping the intercooler has always seemed kind of a luxury. The piping seems more important since some of the aftermarket makers have greatly reduced the number of bends in the pipe. Also not that expensive compared to a new IC.
Is the stock BOV just crappy? I don't know why I read a lot of people replacing the BOV.
Manual or electronic boost controller. Thats like asking the abortion question. I think I will just go manual and if I see the need to upgrade then I will just eat the $90 bucks I spent on the manual boost controller.
Curious...only a few people mentioned the methanol injection. It appealed to me because it can be set up to only come on during high boost/WOT conditions. Its also cheaper than nitrous in the long run.
I could install most of these upgrades myself but the problem is I live in an apartment and all my tools are packed up in boxes in my storage space. I figured I would get the people who were tuning the ECU to install. The tuners would be TOPSPEED who have a pretty good rep (as far as I know) and yes they have a AWD dynojet.
Thanks in advance for your further responses
Seems that the larger injectors are out. Overkill. But several people mentioned a stronger fuel pump. Fuel pump seems like a pretty cheap add on. I think they run like $90. So I expect I will probably get one even if its benefit is marginal.
Some have suggested that cams and cam gears would be overkill. Question is, why do I see so many people with HKS 272 cams in their rides. Almost every article/website/ride has these or similar cams. To me it makes sense to maximize the potential of the engine. The better it breathes the greater the potential, right? Or is this not right?
A turbo back exhaust system seems a given. I have a magnaflow cat back, so in theory I can get away with a test pipe and possibly a down pipe. Not that expensive.
Lots of people have the intercooler upgraded. To me swapping the intercooler has always seemed kind of a luxury. The piping seems more important since some of the aftermarket makers have greatly reduced the number of bends in the pipe. Also not that expensive compared to a new IC.
Is the stock BOV just crappy? I don't know why I read a lot of people replacing the BOV.
Manual or electronic boost controller. Thats like asking the abortion question. I think I will just go manual and if I see the need to upgrade then I will just eat the $90 bucks I spent on the manual boost controller.
Curious...only a few people mentioned the methanol injection. It appealed to me because it can be set up to only come on during high boost/WOT conditions. Its also cheaper than nitrous in the long run.
I could install most of these upgrades myself but the problem is I live in an apartment and all my tools are packed up in boxes in my storage space. I figured I would get the people who were tuning the ECU to install. The tuners would be TOPSPEED who have a pretty good rep (as far as I know) and yes they have a AWD dynojet.
Thanks in advance for your further responses
Originally Posted by PaganImmolator
My goal is to create a 350-400 HP at the wheels car that is also a daily driver. I want the power to always be available and it has to run on available pump gas 92-93 octane.
1)Is 350-400 HP a reasonable goal for a daily driver?
2) what will get me there? I have some money set aside already but I still need to spend wisely.
Here are some things that several people have suggested as possible upgrades. I can't afford all of them. Help me pick.
Anyway your comments are greatly appreciated.
Pagan
1)Is 350-400 HP a reasonable goal for a daily driver?
2) what will get me there? I have some money set aside already but I still need to spend wisely.
Here are some things that several people have suggested as possible upgrades. I can't afford all of them. Help me pick.
Anyway your comments are greatly appreciated.
Pagan
http://store.evostore.com/0311sepugase.html
Last edited by ProccoEVO; Nov 17, 2005 at 08:01 PM.
Originally Posted by PaganImmolator
Thanks for the excellent replies. Very good information . After digesting what some people wrote I have some follow up food for thought questions.
Seems that the larger injectors are out. Overkill. But several people mentioned a stronger fuel pump. Fuel pump seems like a pretty cheap add on. I think they run like $90. So I expect I will probably get one even if its benefit is marginal.
Some have suggested that cams and cam gears would be overkill. Question is, why do I see so many people with HKS 272 cams in their rides. Almost every article/website/ride has these or similar cams. To me it makes sense to maximize the potential of the engine. The better it breathes the greater the potential, right? Or is this not right?
A turbo back exhaust system seems a given. I have a magnaflow cat back, so in theory I can get away with a test pipe and possibly a down pipe. Not that expensive.
Lots of people have the intercooler upgraded. To me swapping the intercooler has always seemed kind of a luxury. The piping seems more important since some of the aftermarket makers have greatly reduced the number of bends in the pipe. Also not that expensive compared to a new IC.
Is the stock BOV just crappy? I don't know why I read a lot of people replacing the BOV.
Manual or electronic boost controller. Thats like asking the abortion question. I think I will just go manual and if I see the need to upgrade then I will just eat the $90 bucks I spent on the manual boost controller.
Curious...only a few people mentioned the methanol injection. It appealed to me because it can be set up to only come on during high boost/WOT conditions. Its also cheaper than nitrous in the long run.
I could install most of these upgrades myself but the problem is I live in an apartment and all my tools are packed up in boxes in my storage space. I figured I would get the people who were tuning the ECU to install. The tuners would be TOPSPEED who have a pretty good rep (as far as I know) and yes they have a AWD dynojet.
Thanks in advance for your further responses
Seems that the larger injectors are out. Overkill. But several people mentioned a stronger fuel pump. Fuel pump seems like a pretty cheap add on. I think they run like $90. So I expect I will probably get one even if its benefit is marginal.
Some have suggested that cams and cam gears would be overkill. Question is, why do I see so many people with HKS 272 cams in their rides. Almost every article/website/ride has these or similar cams. To me it makes sense to maximize the potential of the engine. The better it breathes the greater the potential, right? Or is this not right?
A turbo back exhaust system seems a given. I have a magnaflow cat back, so in theory I can get away with a test pipe and possibly a down pipe. Not that expensive.
Lots of people have the intercooler upgraded. To me swapping the intercooler has always seemed kind of a luxury. The piping seems more important since some of the aftermarket makers have greatly reduced the number of bends in the pipe. Also not that expensive compared to a new IC.
Is the stock BOV just crappy? I don't know why I read a lot of people replacing the BOV.
Manual or electronic boost controller. Thats like asking the abortion question. I think I will just go manual and if I see the need to upgrade then I will just eat the $90 bucks I spent on the manual boost controller.
Curious...only a few people mentioned the methanol injection. It appealed to me because it can be set up to only come on during high boost/WOT conditions. Its also cheaper than nitrous in the long run.
I could install most of these upgrades myself but the problem is I live in an apartment and all my tools are packed up in boxes in my storage space. I figured I would get the people who were tuning the ECU to install. The tuners would be TOPSPEED who have a pretty good rep (as far as I know) and yes they have a AWD dynojet.
Thanks in advance for your further responses
Yes stock BOV is plastic and leaks boost, JDM MR DV is the sh*t.
I think everyone agrees on you getting some cams, extremly beneficial; sure 272's what ever. I'm pretty sure everyone is saying toss the cam gears...
MBC and EBC are personal preference, same function.
I WOULD go with meth inj. I'm going with it myself and poeple who use it swear by it. There is a post that i think David Buschur wrote that will instantly make up your mind about meth inj.
IMO if i were you i would just stay active in this forum, and after short time you will decide for yourself what it takes to hit your goals efficiently.
It really helps to bounce ideas off people. I have a pretty good idea of what I am going to be doing now. Stay tuned for dyno sheets.
BTW anyone have a nice warm garage that I could use to install some of these parts? Live in an apartment right now. Tools all in storage.
Pagan
BTW anyone have a nice warm garage that I could use to install some of these parts? Live in an apartment right now. Tools all in storage.
Pagan