You respond at the speed of sound Warrtalon... I haven't read the whole thing. Well, at least I hope my feedback is good though

 

wtf is this? There shouldnt be any fitment issues with the Greddy exhaust at all -Besides the fact it doesnt clear the bumper; same with the stock exhaust. I've seen plenty of it already Which is why I talk about the flange adapter, or of course a bumper guard which still doesnt completely stop the exhaust from rolling on your bumper.

 

i like the greddy

 

I like that exhaust too, it looks well made (flange-type.) Which is still a ~$500 cb. The canister tooks nice though.

 

Yes, it's overpriced simply because of the namebrand, but ciphermonk got it used, which was very wise. HKS gets away with those prices, because our Evo noobs don't know any better unless I get their attention early enough.

 

Have you guys checked out the Helix ti? Welds look real clean, either that or the JIC for my 9 RS!

BTW, i think it's worth the money for Ti.

 

Why?

 

Yea I sent Gruppe S a pm for the Helix Ti.. it looked like it was thicker than the Greddy, thus the weight increase. They also dont have a mandral bender so they have the weld each bend, however the price is cheaper than the Greddy. Don't know if Gruppe S will respond or not, but hey, it is the day after X-mas

 

If it doesn't provide weight savings, and doesn't provide a power increase over other exhausts, then what is the point of the Helix Ti?

 

If Im going to get a Ti system, I'd like one with a little thicker walls if I could. Also, if theres a chance for better fitment I'm down. Warrtalon, get of your bit, I've had the unfortunate opportunity to see your stuff all over posts even back from July 04 when I search for exhaust stuff. Christ o mighty!

Its cool that you should steer newbies towards making smart decisions with there modding but you can leave some of us alone, especially when were posting in a thread about the lightest exhausts available... Like it or not Titanium is lighter than steel... now if we could only get some cast aliminum exhaust or something (and not melt), which should be even lighter than titanium!

 

so much negativity, when warr actually helped that guy. Any ways good job for ciphermonk makin a good decision and warr for helpin him, thats what this site if for to help

 

Ours fits and is the lightest stainless steel system out there. Our catback with our Buschur Racing muffler is only 16.5 pounds, this is 20 pounds lighter than stock. Entire turbo back system weighs in at 23.8 pounds. This is the offroad pipe system and lightweight muffler.

There are some "issues" with the EVO9 exhaust. First off it has a two bolt hanger that goes at the back of the cat flange. This is there to hold the wires for the 02 sensor. The spread on this hanger is not wide enough to get around a full 3" piece of tubing. I don't care who's exhaust you have, IF it is 3" tubing this bracket will not go around the tube. What we do is simply use one of the bolt holes in this bracket and place it back on the exhaust. There is also a tin heat shield that Mitsubishi for some reason decided they needed (I have no idea why). This heatshield has to be removed to clear the larger diameter exhausts. Simply unbolt it and then the two little studs sticking out have to be taken off.

On our catback we are installing the 02 bungs even on the EVO9 systems. When you later install a high flow cat or an offroad pipe you will need a place to put your 02 sensor as stock it is in the middle of the cat. This bung we put in can be used to move your 02 sensor later or for a wide band now. Either way we install it even though it isn't needed now.

The catback is $450 with your choice of our mufflers. The full turbo back is $825 shipped to you.

ALSO, our system is 100% 304 grade stainless steel and mandrel bent.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

actually it bolts right up. also the JIC Ti catback fits nicely. both the Greddy & JIC weigh in at about 5kg (11lbs) & that is including the midpipe...

the only fitment issues one might have with a 9 is a downpipe, but all you have to do is find a downpipe that fits any '05 as the transfer case is the same which is larger than the '03-'04 models with the exception of the old RS's.

 

Umm, do you know what is involved with changing materials in a large house fabrication shop? You do know that you can't use the same stuff to weld stainless to titanium right? Of course you knew that. Smart guy. They have to recoup costs in changing materials, in addition to other unknown costs i'm sure.

And i'm sure it shows

Umm Iron is stronger than Titanium, i would only hope you knew that. Mitsubishi has to use Iron blocks for having one of the highest HP to displacement engines in history. You aren't teaching me or anybody here anything they didn't already know. Which is why i'm even in this thread in the first place. I guess you have a lot of fanboi's on this forum that egg you on and that's why you are on your high pedestal. But teach me , or us for that matter, something we didn't already know.

Your true interest isn't in helping people here. It's actually in influencing people in your ways. Which isn't a positive attribute to this or any forum. Saving people money? If someone drops $35K on a car and they want a nicer piece than the local-yocal stainless exhaust for $500. what's wrong with that? Yeah the functionality is there, but what if someone doesn't like the way it looks? So in your logic, you'd marry some 350lb woman because it's functional and cheap, not because the way it looks right? And don't say it's not a proper analogy, because it's totally valid.

 

Yes, it does show. View my sig for results. Where are your results?

Good gracious, it was a tongue-in-cheek statement that was intentionally ridiculous, because your whole argument about "progression" was ridiculous. Now, you come back and say how the old technology is better after just telling me the whole reason to buy a titanium exhaust is for reasons of "progression." That's an incredibly lame argument, not to mention a contradiction.

Listen to you. Now, you're telling me what my true intentions are. Where do you get off with this stuff? First, you tell me what ciphermonk was thinking/feeling, and now you're telling ME what I'm thinking/feeling, yet you are completely wrong on both accounts. I am constantly trying to save people money. I do it all the time on here and locally. What is YOUR intention? You aren't teaching anybody anything and are just making a fool of yourself by trying to rationalize paying $500 for 10lbs of weight savings. Looks? What the hell does looks have to do with this? Titanium exhausts don't "look" any better. Another terrible argument. Hell, 90% of the exhaust can't even BE SEEN. Have you ever seen a Megan exhaust in person? It is beautiful and shiny, but that's not even important. Then, trying to equate how an exhaust looks to how a wife looks is completely asinine. it is in NO WAY a proper analogy, because you look at your freakin wife every day at all times. Attraction is a major part of the relationship, but an exhaust just sits under the car getting dirt and grime from the road while passing hot exhaust gasses through it. No comparison WHATSOEVER to the looks of my wife. Your arguments are incredibly absurd...what will you think up next?