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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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What the hell is Mitsu USA Doing?

first off, i remember reading in all my car magazines (r&t, ss, scc etc..) that have done a review on the EVOLUTION late 2002 and early 2003, that Mitsu is advertising the EVO as a BELOW 30k sports car...

why is it that Mitsu is going against their word and allowing some dealerships to get away with 10k+ in mark-ups?

yeah it's supply and demand, but what Mitsu advertised was incorrect...

think about it, if Subaru would market the STi for 29,999 (MSRP is about 35k i've read)... Subaru would get alot more potential buyers then their original 35k MSRP... but when the potential buyers go to the dealer with their 29,999, then subaru mark's up the STi another 5k? WTF is up with that?

that is exactly what mitsubishi USA has done

In advertisements, magazines they advertise the EVO as an Under 30k car, of course without tax/tag/title plus delivery blah blah blah which is understandable, but there are only a hand full of dealerships in the US that is willing to sell for MSRP?

I'm b*Tching and complaining because I had put a deposit down on a BLACK EVO coming APRIL 23rd, and when i signed the deposit form, even though it wasn't on the contract, but I was promised by the rep that I would get the EVO for MSRP NO MARK-UPS!!! so i signed with the quickness and gave him my deposit CASH!

2 weeks later, they are added a MANDATORY 'RALLY PACKAGE' which is basically, wheel locks, brake covers?, window visors and a cargo net for 3k!!! and you cannot buy the car without the package...

so i don't know what to do...

I found another dealer about 1 1/2 away from orlando that i will buy the car MSRP but i have to wait till may for the black one to come in!!! i will wait, but it sux that i have to go through all of this when they promised me in the first place

sorry for the long @$$ post, and I hope someone at FOUNTAIN MITSU in ORLANDO reads this and gives me a call
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 08:52 AM
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Sorry dude, but you're ranting to the wrong place. Mitsubishi can't control that - that's a consistency across all dealerships with a car like this. It's the good dealerships that will still sell a car at MSRP, but by no means is it the rule.

The mistake you made was paying a deposit in cash without a strong contract. Personally, I'd've done it with a credit card (not a debit card mind you, either). Then you can easily just instruct the card company to charge back the deposit since they failed to keep their end of the contract. I'd have solidified the options packages and the final price before signing the contract too.

Now I know that hindsight is 20/20 and all, but these are my thoughts on it. So long as you're paying with cash, you may as well expect to get ripped off. There's no protection there.
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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well, it's not that i can't get my deposit back, because i told FOUNTAIN that if they wouldn't give me what they promised, that I want my deposit back, and they said fine... because i have the receipt from the deposit so that's not a problem...

the problem is them promising MSRP and then marking it up later
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:01 AM
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It sucks that the dealer screwed you in this deal. I would forward your comments to Mistu HQ and tell them about this dealerships practices. Maybe then will start trying to control these ficticious "mandatory add-ons"
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:06 AM
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Re: What the hell is Mitsu USA Doing?

Ok, you're wayyy off your rocker here. Your rant is filled with inaccuracies... lemme try to correct:


why is it that Mitsu is going against their word and allowing some dealerships to get away with 10k+ in mark-ups?
That's crap. isn't LETTING anyone, they don't have control over it. Tell me, does PEPSI or Kraft have control over how much a store charges for a soda, or cheese? No. It's simple supply and demand.


yeah it's supply and demand, but what Mitsu advertised was incorrect...
Wrong again. They're correct. There's probably more dealers selling for MSRP than marking them up, IF YOU LOOK! You can't look in big cities and you can't look at dealers who have a ton of them.


In advertisements, magazines they advertise the EVO as an Under 30k car, of course without tax/tag/title plus delivery blah blah blah which is understandable, but there are only a hand full of dealerships in the US that is willing to sell for MSRP?
Wrong again. Read my above comment.


2 weeks later, they are added a MANDATORY 'RALLY PACKAGE' which is basically, wheel locks, brake covers?, window visors and a cargo net for 3k!!! and you cannot buy the car without the package...
Hahaha... I love when people talk about stuff they have NO IDEA about. This is NOT a required package. It's probably a required package from the dealer. is not making this, or never will, required.


so i don't know what to do...

I found another dealer about 1 1/2 away from orlando that i will buy the car MSRP but i have to wait till may for the black one to come in!!! i will wait, but it sux that i have to go through all of this when they promised me in the first place
Well, you know what to do, you just said it here. If you want it at MSRP, you'll have to wait. Otherwise, pay the outragous fees that the other dealer has. This proves that you made generalizations about that weren't true, just about the dealer you were working with.
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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I think Bose is a good example of how to run a company. They do not let anyone sell for any other price than exactly what they say. Bose will run a special and it will be the same at Sears, Circuit City, Crutchfield, etc.....

They do not even let Sears offer special financing unless everyone has the same.

Honda s2000's got marked up... Ferrari's get marked up, Porsches' get marked up.

If you did have a contract, it should have stated MSRP

Mine stated msrp and they lived up to it...but they surcharged the next guy $2k.
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:18 AM
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i know the 'rally package' was only at the dealer i was working with and NOT mitsu US...

oh well, if there's a will there's a way
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:20 AM
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do you guys think i should go the 'verbal contract' way and just raise a fit about this guy PROMISING multiple times ? or should i just walk?
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:25 AM
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Walk. Verbal contracts are no good when it comes to cars. If you don't have it on paper, it's almost as if that conversation never took place.
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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Hey man. You certainly sound frustrated. I think your anger is a bit misplaced though. Your anger should lay with the greedy dealerships in your area....not with Mitsubishi itself.

If I were you I would take my deposit back and go to another dealership. Find yourself a place that is not marking up cars like the one you are currently dealing with. I would then place an order on an Evo at that dealership...

This time get the "No accessories added, car to be sold at a price not to exceed MSRP" line item added to your order sheet, or deposit receipt. Be sure to get a VON (vehicle order number) for an exact car if possible, or if the car is already built, get a VIN.

Without specifics like this on your contract, you are giving a deposit to merely hold your place in line, not to hold an exact car at a certain price.

Good luck!

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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by ghostrider
Walk. Verbal contracts are no good when it comes to cars. If you don't have it on paper, it's almost as if that conversation never took place.
Bingo. Thats the best thing Ive heard someone say in a while
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:34 AM
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sounds good... just needed to hear others opinions

tnx guys
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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Walk. Verbal contracts are no good when it comes to cars. If you don't have it on paper, it's almost as if that conversation never took place.
Written contracts don't seem to mean much either. I've lost two Evo deals in the last week from customers who signed a purchase agreement with me (at MSRP with extra no crap added on) and left cash deposits who then went - without even so much as a phone call - to another dealer and took delivery of a car that was their 2nd/3rd/4th color/option choice, and paid MORE just so they could have the car a few weeks sooner.

If signed agreements and cash deposits mean nothing to customers, why should they mean anything to the dealers?
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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good point mark...nice to have a dealer prespective.

But you all cant do aynyhting about that, even though they signed to buy from you??
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by Mark F


Written contracts don't seem to mean much either. I've lost two Evo deals in the last week from customers who signed a purchase agreement with me (at MSRP with extra no crap added on) and left cash deposits who then went - without even so much as a phone call - to another dealer and took delivery of a car that was their 2nd/3rd/4th color/option choice, and paid MORE just so they could have the car a few weeks sooner.

If signed agreements and cash deposits mean nothing to customers, why should they mean anything to the dealers?
If you signed a non deposit contract with them wouldnt' you think that'll be fair since you get to keep thier $500 or $1000 dollars?
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