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Old Mar 1, 2006, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by taenaive
Cali weather is also hot. It is hard to boost more than 20psi without few knocks on stock turbo. I doubt you can do 400whp even with Alky using the stock turbo here. you need the big turbo with Alky to go more than 400whp in Cali.
I think water injection would really reduce the knock.
Old Mar 2, 2006, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by housedj
well well well. big turbo + 91? not happening sorry. you won't even be able to spool a GT35R on 91 octane.
That is flat out wrong. There are way too many pontificators on this site. I think his screen name is G20 on SoCalEvo.Net, but he has a GT35 tuned by Scot Gray putting down 400whp (DynoJet) on 91. Yeah, it spools late but he has no complaints.
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Originally Posted by sonicnofadz
You forgot the most important "mod" you will need: $3000.00 transmission to take the abuse of a 500hp awd car.
thats not true. Plenty of Evos running 500+ on stock tranny, look at chris from penasacola, he was making over 600whp on the stock tranny and he was racing his car constantly, we have a few high hp evos here in fl with STOCK tranny
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
They've already had IXs with all the bolt-ons try to dyno there with water injection?

No, no. I'm sorry. THe 350 whp number is for an 8 with all the bolt ons. Most dyno around 330-340, but there have been a handful to put down 350 in cooler weather. THe 365 whp is the highest Tuning Technologies has had (IIRC) for an 8 on the stock turbo, but I don't think it was a conservative tune. For example, Shiv's tunes are more conservative than others.
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Originally Posted by atlvalet
No, no. I'm sorry. THe 350 whp number is for an 8 with all the bolt ons. Most dyno around 330-340, but there have been a handful to put down 350 in cooler weather. THe 365 whp is the highest Tuning Technologies has had (IIRC) for an 8 on the stock turbo, but I don't think it was a conservative tune. For example, Shiv's tunes are more conservative than others.
Ok, well take those numbers on an 8, apply this to a 9 and add water injection. You're getting pretty close to 400whp now. That was my point from the beginning.
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We've made 370whp (on our DD dyno) on CA91oct before. This is 410-420whp on a Dynojet. But this required some work: Stg 2 turbo kit (GT3071), sheet metal intake, 280 cams, cam gears, full exhaust and test-pipe. The car was, by far the strongest, pump gas car we've seen. It just so happened to be mine

-Shiv, on Sean's computer
Old Mar 2, 2006, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Ok, well take those numbers on an 8, apply this to a 9 and add water injection. You're getting pretty close to 400whp now. That was my point from the beginning.
I'm confused, water injection doesn't add anywhere close to 50 whp. Does alky even add that much? Or are you talking about the increased HP the 9's have been showing with the same mods + water injection?
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Originally Posted by razorlab
I'm confused, water injection doesn't add anywhere close to 50 whp. Does alky even add that much? Or are you talking about the increased HP the 9's have been showing with the same mods + water injection?
Yes. Just look at the IXs with BPU doing 345-360whp on straight 93oct whereas an equivalently-modded VIII would do 300-3310whp. It's sickening. The 330whp I put in my sig with the WT/BR package is on the conservative side apparently. So, then add WI to the 91oct and you have your 35-50whp over the VIIIs at TT...
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
They've already had IXs with all the bolt-ons try to dyno there with water injection?
There good there too!!!
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Originally Posted by brodienuchies
There good there too!!!
What?
Old Mar 2, 2006, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Yes. Just look at the IXs with BPU doing 345-360whp on straight 93oct whereas an equivalently-modded VIII would do 300-3310whp. It's sickening. The 330whp I put in my sig with the WT/BR package is on the conservative side apparently. So, then add WI to the 91oct and you have your 35-50whp over the VIIIs at TT...
Ah ok, I understand what you are saying.

Unfortunatly this is all ricer math until we see both-cam upgraded 9's on cali 91. Should be interesting to see results!
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Originally Posted by razorlab
I'm confused, water injection doesn't add anywhere close to 50 whp. Does alky even add that much? Or are you talking about the increased HP the 9's have been showing with the same mods + water injection?
water injection does not add horsepower, it allows you to tune more agressively by cooling the cylinders. this would allow you to run much leaner than normal at higher boost.

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Old Mar 2, 2006, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by strikethree
water injection does not add horsepower, it allows you to tune more agressively by cooling the cylinders. this would allow you to run much leaner than normal at higher boost.

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I know.
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Originally Posted by strikethree
water injection does not add horsepower, it allows you to tune more agressively by cooling the cylinders. this would allow you to run much leaner than normal at higher boost.

strike
You can say that bout almost any mod, with almost any mod it allows you to tune more agreesively. So I would say it is the alk kit that adds hp.
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Yeah. Its winter here and 67'f during the day.


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