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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 06:20 PM
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um......the mini cooper got like 130hp dude
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 06:38 PM
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Thx David, when you get a chance, check your PMs. Can't wait for your results from more controlled tests!!!
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 06:50 PM
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LOL... totally biffed that one (good bye credibility) ... one of my buddies sent me stats today in an email that I thought were from the website I gave you guys.. and it showed the Z06 doing 60 mph at 5.7 seconds and the mini making it there in 5.6 seconds. So that was what I was trying to show you..

The point I was making was that if say the mini had 150 hp.. but 175ft-lbs of torque and weight say 1500 lbs. If the Vette had 300 hp, and 300 ft-lbs of torque and weighed 3,000 lbs... the mini would win. The numbers aren't actually right though obviously... but with a torque to weight ratio of 1:~9.5 and the vette with a torque to weight ratio of 1:10 the mini would theoretically have the vette in a short sprint from dead stopped. That is assuming the power curves were relatively linear and so forth. So my point was that how much horsepower something has isn't as big of a deal as torque for the haul *** of the line initially end of things.. and that the ratio of those numbers to horsepower is what makes them fast. That's why a crotch rocket with 100 hp/90ft-lbs will whoop so many high powered cars.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 06:52 PM
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I see what you are saying now, no worries on the number mix up. The thing is however, that the evo isnt THAT much lighter than the s4 and roughly weighs the same as the s/c'ed m3. And both of these cars have significantly more power than the evo. I guess we'll just have to wait for more concrete data.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by sdhotwn
LOL... totally biffed that one (good bye credibility) ... one of my buddies sent me stats today in an email that I thought were from the website I gave you guys.. and it showed the Z06 doing 60 mph at 5.7 seconds and the mini making it there in 5.6 seconds. So that was what I was trying to show you..

The point I was making was that if say the mini had 150 hp.. but 175ft-lbs of torque and weight say 1500 lbs. If the Vette had 300 hp, and 300 ft-lbs of torque and weighed 3,000 lbs... the mini would win. The numbers aren't actually right though obviously... but with a torque to weight ratio of 1:~9.5 and the vette with a torque to weight ratio of 1:10 the mini would theoretically have the vette in a short sprint from dead stopped. That is assuming the power curves were relatively linear and so forth. So my point was that how much horsepower something has isn't as big of a deal as torque for the haul *** of the line initially end of things.. and that the ratio of those numbers to horsepower is what makes them fast. That's why a crotch rocket with 100 hp/90ft-lbs will whoop so many high powered cars.
If a C5 ran a 5.7 0-60 there was wheel spin involved.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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that or one gawdawful driver :-)
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