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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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My alarm with remote and turbo timer. I do not have to press my clutch to start the car. But the car will die if it is in gear and the e-brake is not set when you remove the key so I have no worries of leaving my car in gear. If you do not want to press the clutch in this is probobly the best type of setup to go with. DEI and compustar are great options.
do you have the compustar one? cause on my last car with the viper (dei) i accidentally had it in gear and remote started it..... luckily i had the ebrake up and i remembered it was in gear, so i shut it off almost right away... I have the viper on my evo now and still have to press the clutch and all that mumbo jumbo.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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I took a look under the pedals yesterday and there is some sort of white peg/button that is pushed down when the clutch is pushed in. And I was thinking instead of disconnecting these wires, couldn't you just put some tape over this button and call it a deal?
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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Yes I have the compustar 2wssr. It is now installed in the second evo with no probelms so far.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by HPF Tom
This is the first mod I've on any of the DSMs I've owned, the Evo included. I unplugged the clutch engagement switch on my Evo before I fired it up to drive it off the lot when I bought it new. By not depressing the clutch when the motor is off you avoid putting pressure on the crankshaft and surrounding bearings when there is no oil circulation. This is most important on 7-bolt old school DSMs (92.5-99 cars) with a heavy pressure plate that puts lots of pressure on those engine parts as it can accelerate crankwalk, a condition notorious on those motors. It's not a problem to get in the car and give the shifter a wiggle to be sure it's in neutral before you turn the key and it's just another little thing you can do to be nice to your Evo.

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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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I never did that mod to my 2G even and it never walked. But I do find myself putting my Evo in neutral and coasting a lot to keep my foot off the clutch as much as possible, even though CW is a thing of the past. Tough habit to brake. My turbo timer is wired into my ebrake, so I don't see how it would be defeated if I undid the clutch sensor.

I don't think I'll do it to my Evo, just on the off chance my car is every driven by a technician, valet, etc.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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How hard is it to just push in the clutch?
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sleet
How hard is it to just push in the clutch?
Its not but instead of being ignorant read though all the pages and you will see how using your clutch is harmfull to your car.

Last edited by Tonz of fun; Apr 20, 2006 at 12:13 PM.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by hotrod2448
I don't believe that having the clutch depressed at start loads the crank enough to kill your thrust bearings in an unreasonable amount of time.

Using that logic the first time the engine fires when starting should wear out you main bearings in an unreasonable amount of time as well since a power stroke is going to provide way more load than a clutch and there is still little to no oil pressure. The same for your cams and the spring pressure on them. I know alot of an engines wear occurs at start but, unless you have a pre-oiling system there isn't much you can do about that.

I offered my experience as to why people (mainly Mitsu owners) have done this modification in the past. Do I agree with it? Not necessarily. However, I don't have my own crankwalk theory. I'm not an engineer. What's your crankwalk theory?

Nevermind, let's not hijack this thread like it's a 757.....
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 90GSX-03EVO
I offered my experience as to why people (mainly Mitsu owners) have done this modification in the past. Do I agree with it? Not necessarily. However, I don't have my own crankwalk theory. I'm not an engineer. What's your crankwalk theory?

Nevermind, let's not hijack this thread like it's a 757.....
I don't doubt that that is the reason why people do it and I thank you for sharing your knowledge. I'm still not subscribing to that theory though. To me it is about the same as the brake in the engine on factory oil or change to Dino oil debate, plenty ideas and they all have their points but, no one has any conclusive evidence.

Back on topic.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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There has been manual cars for DECADES now, don't you think it's safer to keep that feature in rather than worry about something so insignificant in this highly technological age?

Sure, if by pressing the clutch down you significantly decreased the life expactancy of the car, then you should do it. But without real evidence, I would just worry about warming up your car each time you drive off rather than this.
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