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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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I will ask the gas station today if it is ron or mon, cool I did not know that, thanks a lot. In your country how much does the EVO cost? You got any dynos there?
my cost me 43000 USD its a jdm model, we have a dyno but its broked! no hope at all on them fixing it!
i have a g-tech meter all i can say is that with my setup i run 12.2sec the quartemile thats what the g-tech says.look at a video i made in the drag forums which is my car against a mercedez amg e55 we went head to head on a drag race and i beat him like by 6car lenghts his car makes 12.7sec on a g-tech
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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what was the price of your evo in brazil?
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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what was the price of your evo in brazil?
US$90000,00 (eighty thousand dollars) - because of 130% import taxes. So the car originally should have costed about US$40k. I think I will buy this g-tech meter. Tomorrow a few friends called me to race a 2006 SKL 55 AMG and a Carrera 4s. I think I will beat the Carrera easily, because it is stock, but I am not sure about this SLK 55 AMG. I will not go tomorrow because my car is still at the shop putting the parts, but I will go next week when my car is ready. Send me the link of you video, that is pretty cool!!!!! What Mods u you have in your car? What is a Vishnu v360 ?
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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Not so.... I've owned an EVO VIII with all those mods and AEM EMS plus more and it barely got 290whp on a DD dyno. The stock '03 EVO VIIIs were dynoing around 200~220 whp.
300 whp untuned with cams and an exhaust is wishful thinking... Unless you use one of those "magic dynos"

I made 314 before tuning with the same parts and fuel pump at TT. Hardly what I would call a "magic dyno"
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cneio
US$90000,00 (eighty thousand dollars) - because of 130% import taxes. So the car originally should have costed about US$40k. I think I will buy this g-tech meter. Tomorrow a few friends called me to race a 2006 SKL 55 AMG and a Carrera 4s. I think I will beat the Carrera easily, because it is stock, but I am not sure about this SLK 55 AMG. I will not go tomorrow because my car is still at the shop putting the parts, but I will go next week when my car is ready. Send me the link of you video, that is pretty cool!!!!! What Mods u you have in your car? What is a Vishnu v360 ?
Sorry, original is 90k, since I bought it from a friend of mine, I paid him 10k less (it has only 2 thousand miles). So I paid 80k for the car.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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I made 314 before tuning with the same parts and fuel pump at TT. Hardly what I would call a "magic dyno"

Cool ... So the fuel pump increases horsepower as well? You made 314 whp without fuel pump and tunning?

Do you know any easy to use ECU programing? I read that EcuTek is pretty easy to use, that anyone can do it.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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The 95 pump octane that he said is calculated by RON + MOM / 2
The RON value is 105

Enough octanes to run agreesive timing and fuel maps.

cneio, I do not recommend any flash because the brazilian gasoline = 20% of alcohol is too much different from the gasoline sold in USA.

I bought the g-tech meter some years ago and did a lot of runs. Every time I install a new part I do new tests to be sure about the results.

I guess that a full exhaust can give you 30hp, cams more 25hp, panel filter 5hp

If I were you I would look for a ready to go ECU like Ralliart, Tomei, Mines, HKS Kansai etc...
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by k270kmh
The 95 pump octane that he said is calculated by RON + MOM / 2
The RON value is 105

Enough octanes to run agreesive timing and fuel maps.

cneio, I do not recommend any flash because the brazilian gasoline = 20% of alcohol is too much different from the gasoline sold in USA.

I bought the g-tech meter some years ago and did a lot of runs. Every time I install a new part I do new tests to be sure about the results.

I guess that a full exhaust can give you 30hp, cams more 25hp, panel filter 5hp

If I were you I would look for a ready to go ECU like Ralliart, Tomei, Mines, HKS Kansai etc...
Yes, that is right. The gasoline is mixed with a lot of alcohol. The ready to go ECU is better than the stock one? A guy at Vivid Racing recomended a new ECU from Autronics. But it is too expensive, almost US$4k with all the harness and stuff he said was necessary. How are these ready to go ECU better than the stock one? Can I install it myself?
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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INSTEAD of changing your ecu for a stanalone i would suggest a piggyback like the one vishnu sell iam telling you they have the maps for on there web site there is no need for you to go use a standalone take a look at the vishnu site!
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jrsimon27
INSTEAD of changing your ecu for a stanalone i would suggest a piggyback like the one vishnu sell iam telling you they have the maps for on there web site there is no need for you to go use a standalone take a look at the vishnu site!
Ok, ok, but is the gas in Honduras mixed with alcohol also? Does Vishnu has a map for that type gas? These stand alones ECU are programmed to adapt to any diferences in gas, altitude, etc, right?
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cneio
Cool ... So the fuel pump increases horsepower as well? You made 314 whp without fuel pump and tunning?

Do you know any easy to use ECU programing? I read that EcuTek is pretty easy to use, that anyone can do it.
The fuel pump wont increase horsepower. However, it will allow you to run higher boost levels with more safety. Some people say it's a mandatory modification for safety.
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Ok, ok, but is the gas in Honduras mixed with alcohol also? Does Vishnu has a map for that type gas? These stand alones ECU are programmed to adapt to any diferences in gas, altitude, etc, right?
The stock ECU is programmed to adapt to minor differences in gasoline. It is programmed for various altitudes, etc. However, it will not protect the car from granading if you modify the engine and affect the pressure and flow... If the car is modified all bets are off... If the gasoline has low octane, you are almost assured of disaster specially if you run it in a modded car. Do not listen to people who tell you to do all kinds of $hit, they either don't know what they are talking about or don't care if you blow up your motor.......
There is no easy ECU programming. Unless you are an skilled, trained tuner you'll almost surely granade your motor if you try to program it. Stand alone ECUs and piggybacks are extremely easy to install but impossible to tune without knowledge and at least a wide band O2 sensor and a knock link or similar device.... There is no such thing as an easy, DIY tuning system unless you already know what to do very well
Try Vishnu and see if they have some suggestions for you. Otherwise proceed at your own very real risk

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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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cneio...Just curious...why a 3.5" TBE setup rather than the more common 3" TBE setup most Evo owners choose to run?
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Turd Squirter
cneio...Just curious...why a 3.5" TBE setup rather than the more common 3" TBE setup most Evo owners choose to run?
My mistake, it is only 3.0" ... I did some typos that I am correcting. I found out today that I wrote EVO XVIII instead of VIII, hahaha. Thanks for noticing.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by silverEVO8
The fuel pump wont increase horsepower. However, it will allow you to run higher boost levels with more safety. Some people say it's a mandatory modification for safety.

The stock ECU is programmed to adapt to minor differences in gasoline. It is programmed for various altitudes, etc. However, it will not protect the car from granading if you modify the engine and affect the pressure and flow... If the car is modified all bets are off... If the gasoline has low octane, you are almost assured of disaster specially if you run it in a modded car. Do not listen to people who tell you to do all kinds of $hit, they either don't know what they are talking about or don't care if you blow up your motor.......
There is no easy ECU programming. Unless you are an skilled, trained tuner you'll almost surely granade your motor if you try to program it. Stand alone ECUs and piggybacks are extremely easy to install but impossible to tune without knowledge and at least a wide band O2 sensor and a knock link or similar device.... There is no such thing as an easy, DIY tuning system unless you already know what to do very well
Try Vishnu and see if they have some suggestions for you. Otherwise proceed at your own very real risk

Yes, that is what I thought. Lots of salesman wanted me to buy the AEM EMS and told me it was easy to use, that I just needed to download some maps that were ready off the internet, etc. I blew the fuel pump of a Turbo Fiat from mixed low grade gasoline, luckly did not blow the engine. In Sao Paulo I am ok because I know a good gas station, the problem is traveling to the coast or to another city. I just sent an email to Vishnu. I hope the mods I am doing will be ok with the stock turbo. I drove an EVO VII with exhaust only and I was impressed at the diference between my stock one and an EVO VII with the exaust. When I used to live in the U.S. things were much, much easier ... I would just take my car to JUN USA n and they would do everything for me. I heard they closed down though. Thanks a lot for the imput!
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by cneio
Cool ... So the fuel pump increases horsepower as well? You made 314 whp without fuel pump and tunning?

Do you know any easy to use ECU programing? I read that EcuTek is pretty easy to use, that anyone can do it.

No, I listed it because before tuning you run pig rich which reduces power. I would get in touch with Al, Dynoflash and tell him what you have and your quality of gas and let him come up with a flash for your ecu. You'll have to mail it to him in the states, but it sounds like that is your best bet.
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