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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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On Subaru's the wear and tear items are covored under a 1 year/12,000 mile warranty.

The only wear and tear item on the clutch ***'y alone is the clutch disc. So lets say your car has a weak pressure plate, not giving the clutch disc enough pressure to push it up against the flywheel, then yes the clutch disc would be covored under warranty because the non wearing pressure plate malfuncioned.
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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I can' t decide if this is good or bad to post. But anyway, here's a post from that guy with the blown clutch after 1400 miles.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/DSMCA/message/45019

My opinion at the time was that this item really should be covered. While the clutch disc itself is wear and tear, 1400 miles is still unusually early. The guy comments that he could tell the clutch was going to be a problem the first time he got on it after breakin. Something sounds out of place on that car to me.

You'd have to absolutely beat the hell out of the car to see a clutch failure at 1400 miles. And we've seen plenty of people beating the hell out of their EVOs without clutch failure. Consider the dyno queens for example. They're getting tons of power put down without any issues, yet.

Something had to be flaky with this particular clutch. A weak pressure plate was a good example brought up by someone earlier. If this guy could detect clutch slippage the *first* time he got on it, then something wasn't right.

Now before anyone points out that he did hit the track one time, keep in mind that any spirited launch from a stop light is going to be just about as abusive on the car. While technically against the warranty, I'm sure, I still think this is a case of a manufacturing defect. Who knows, though?

Thomas Dorris
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 12:38 PM
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At 1400 miles!? Yes, the dealer has to cover it under mfg warranty unless otherwise they can prove the car has been drive hard and abused. We are talking 1400 miles here and not 14,000 miles... I agree with many of you on the fact that some owners have gone overboard spanking the crap out of their cars when they shouldn't have... Well, Mitsu can't control how customers drive their cars so they will have to account for such warranty claims into their cost of doing business, which I'm sure they have.
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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Besides, after all the markups I'm sure that Mitsu can afford it!!
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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Well, when i had the clutch replaced on my eclipse with a stock one, they gave me a 12,000 mile or 1 year warranty on it. The guy said it's covered for defects and prematurely wearing out for that period. He told me though that if the clutch looks burnt to a crisp and there is reason to beleive you were racing they can deny you the service.

I'm thinking the clutch has some type of warranty mitsu doesnt tell anyone about?
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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I don't think Mitsu makes their clutches. So their vendor has to cover it under warranty replacement.
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by Jonasan50
Besides, after all the markups I'm sure that Mitsu can afford it!!
Unfortunately the dealers get the money from the mark up and not mits. Mits has to pay the dealer back for any labor involved if it is covered under warranty. Thats another reason why some dealers may be mod friendly but only to a certain point. They still have to go back to mits and get the warranty work approved.

Dealer has initial say on what is fixed and what is not fixed. Mits has the final say.
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 02:55 PM
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We have a great replacement clutch disc. for the factory flywheel. I will post pictures up soon. Its a 6 puck racing style disc but it has a sprung hub for easy driving. Cost should be around $199.00. Don't pay factory costs for another bad disc! If you have to spend the money at leased get a good one.

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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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id go with the RMR if i fried one...they have great products
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by RMRBlair
We have a great replacement clutch disc. for the factory flywheel. I will post pictures up soon. Its a 6 puck racing style disc but it has a sprung hub for easy driving. Cost should be around $199.00. Don't pay factory costs for another bad disc! If you have to spend the money at leased get a good one.

Blair
Personally, If I were doing a clutch replacement I would gp all out (Disc, TOB, PP, and Flywheel) you realise by spending the extra $300-$350 for a new TOB, PP, flywheel it is nice to have the insurance and piece of mind that you know you wont get a malfunction because you reused your stock PP....
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Thwack
well, most consumer would say that a clutch failing at 1400 miles, after a week of ownership is defective. (probably why the dealer covered it). we (and the dealer) know better..

That's because most consumers aren't enthusiasts, so if the clutch dies on their Camry at 1500 miles, then I'd be pissed, too. If it were a sports car, OTOH, that would indicate abuse in most instances. Then again, there are a bunch of 50-somethings around my area that drive 911's and Vettes 10-15 miles below the speed limit. Wear & tear on the clutch? Hardly...
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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While smoking the clutch at 1,400 miles does probably indicate a moron....there is one good point that I heard someone say. They asked why Mitsu will be so strict about warranty when they advertise their car as a "race car" and promote its performance. I agree with this. Both my Evo 8 and my S2000 had brochures full of manufacturer promo stuff spouting how the cars were tough and could take aggressive driving....the S2000 brochure even ENCOURAGES you to run it to redline....yet both manufacturers are ready to deny claims when you drive them as their literature promotes.

This is where my problem is. Why promote a car to the customers like that and then essentially go back on your word that the car can take it?? Either promote the car as a performance car and be prepared to BACK the car with the warranty, or promote it in some other way and stick to stingy warranty claims. I have heard of plenty of S2000 people being denied warranty claims on their motors because the cars were deemed to have been driven hard, yet Honda TELLS YOU TO DRIVE THEM HARD!!

Manufacturers...get your goals straight and back your cars.
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 04:47 PM
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OK, use some comon logic,#1 this is a high performance car#2 this is precisly why mits. did not want to bring this car over,#3 we just had a kid kill him self because he lauched too soon and got hit buy on coming trafic.This car is not for kids to street race,beat up destroy, then think my store is going to fix it because of there stupidity!!!!!
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 05:01 PM
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Actually... The pressure plate and flywheel are quite good. Its the disc thats the weak point (not including the driver) We have a customer that ran that same pressure plate/flywheel all last year in the SCCA series, never had one problem.
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by dlowman
I tried to give a friendly warning of this in another thread but got crapped on by everyone saying this tranny wasnt a weak *** wrx tranny etc.
I read that thread and just laughed. Can't help fools.
Clutch dumping tranny breaking EVO drivers......
should start a new forum just for them because they will be legion.
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