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Old May 11, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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"World Engine" - Chrysler, Hyundai, Mistu

I received a copy of Automotive Engineering and it had an article about the World Engine that Chrysler, Hyundai and Mitsubishi have jointly been working on and thought I would share.

As most of you know this is the engine that will be in the Evo X and Dodge Calibur SRT-4.

Sorry for the crappy pic, but it is the best I could do at the moment. I could send people the PDF file if requested.

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Old May 11, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Crap the pic didn't upload...let me try again
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Old May 11, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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Well it worked this time but the image sucks...crappy 100k file size limit.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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Pretty cool. Not much of a surprise though, mitsu used to own hyundai.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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last i herd this engine was just for the SRT-4. but i could be wrong.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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I might have been quick to say that it is the next Evo X engine...I may be wrong, but I believe that if it isn't this engine then it will be a slight variation of it. Meaning some modifications to handle the boost. I have seen info on the next SRT-4 and it is said to have 300hp stock.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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yeah from what i've herd, its a dodge/chrysler body with mitsu engine, and hyundai drivetrain. i think i remember hearing some where that the X and the SRT-4 will share drivetrain but the evo's motor will live up to its ancestors.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Ty-Evo8
I might have been quick to say that it is the next Evo X engine...I may be wrong, but I believe that if it isn't this engine then it will be a slight variation of it. Meaning some modifications to handle the boost. I have seen info on the next SRT-4 and it is said to have 300hp stock.
They best update the drivetrain for 300hp. I can't even imagine that on a factory FWD car (assuming the characteristics from the old SRT-4 remain).

I'm sure the price will increase accordingly.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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They best update the drivetrain for 300hp. I can't even imagine that on a factory FWD car (assuming the characteristics from the old SRT-4 remain).

I'm sure the price will increase accordingly.
They are going to upgrade the drivetrain on the X. Its a newly designed AWD system called Super All Wheel Control (SAWC).

The guys at Car and Driver got to test it out at the snow covered mitsubishi proving grounds in northern Japan according to the article in the June 2006 issue. (page 38)
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Old May 11, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew LB
They are going to upgrade the drivetrain on the X. Its a newly designed AWD system called Super All Wheel Control (SAWC).

The guys at Car and Driver got to test it out at the snow covered mitsubishi proving grounds in northern Japan according to the article in the June 2006 issue. (page 38)
Actually, I was talking about the SRT-4. I knew about the X's improvements (or at least, reported improvements)...but I hadn't realized the SRT-4 might be sporting the same engine. If they kept the SRT-4 FWD with much of the same characteristics of the 03-05 SRT-4, 300hp would be scary.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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Go torque steer! There is something (damn my memory) that helps with this. The new Grand Prix have it to reduce their torque steer. High end model pushes 300 hp.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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yeah i read about this in Car and Driver a few months ago.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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Go torque steer! There is something (damn my memory) that helps with this. The new Grand Prix have it to reduce their torque steer. High end model pushes 300 hp.
Limited slip? torque limiter in lower gears?
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Old May 11, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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There's definitely technology that can combat the issues associated with high HP/TQ FWD cars.

I guess...what I was getting at was what the SRT-4 is/was: and that is, an affordable sports compact. I doubt anyone would disagree that they make some pretty amazing numbers/times for what they are, and for the little amount of money you need to invest (relative, of course, but some pretty scary gains can be made for very little).

That being said, if they upgraded the engine (which seems odd, considering all the attention the 03-05 platform received. read: built) to this new collaborative design, and then added a lot of the handling components to be on par with this new platform, it'd cease to be what it was. The price will undoubtly raise to reflect these changes, etc. and so on.

I hope that makes some sense? =/

Edit: I also realize the 04-05 models came equipped with LSD from the factory. And, yes, this did help control the torque steer, but it certainly didn't eliminate the issue. With an additional 70 crank horsepower from factory (which is near what they made in 04-05 anyway with the stock 220-230whp dynos), the torque steer would (obviously) be increasingly more noticable. So, in other words, more measures/steps would have to be taken. I'm not a mechanical engineer, so for all I know, they might have something that will drastically simplify all of this, thus allowing the car to retain its former price tag. That is, of course, assuming they intend for it to compete at the same level. All speculation.

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Old May 11, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Silk
Limited slip? torque limiter in lower gears?
I dunno. My buddy installed an LSD in his 2002 GTI with a GT28RS turbo and all the supporting mods and while pushing 340whp, it had serious torque steer. Yes... the LSD helped, but it was still scary.
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