20g question for EVO 9
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
White06, that's why I said to WAIT. They haven't even been released yet. Of course you'd want to see how they run, how much power they make, and how well they idle. That's why I said to wait a few weeks. AMS has a set of them and should be testing them as we speak.
Noogles, we don't know how the GSC 280s idle yet - may not be the same as other brand 280s, especially on the IX.
Dr. SS, the IX may make 30whp/30wtq over a stock 03/04 w/9.8 hotside, but I'd be happy with 20whp over my 05 w/10.5 hotside. I'm mainly interested in if it can sustain more boost at higher rpm than my stocker here at altitude, but I'm not holding my breath.
Noogles, we don't know how the GSC 280s idle yet - may not be the same as other brand 280s, especially on the IX.
Dr. SS, the IX may make 30whp/30wtq over a stock 03/04 w/9.8 hotside, but I'd be happy with 20whp over my 05 w/10.5 hotside. I'm mainly interested in if it can sustain more boost at higher rpm than my stocker here at altitude, but I'm not holding my breath.
No to mention that once the MIVEC get all figured out it could be used like an adjustable cam gear to widen the LSA at idle to smooth it all out and then still make the power upto. That the wonder of having a constant VVT instead of the origional V-tech that required oil pressure and rpm to activate.
HKS Kansai of Japan make 413 whp with their TME (Takuyoshi Mukai Edition or something like) IX and I think they're using the 20g-9. But that's HKS Kansai plus they have 100 + octane fuel at the pump so it normal that they're pushing out such numbers.
More importantly that the turbo being used is the Engine Managment.
I've seen Vipers gain 100+whp by switching from a AEM to a Motec Computer.
But thats besides the point..... Are you sure they are running a 20g9 and not one of there own gt30-37s (or newer) turbo kit?
I've seen Vipers gain 100+whp by switching from a AEM to a Motec Computer.
But thats besides the point..... Are you sure they are running a 20g9 and not one of there own gt30-37s (or newer) turbo kit?
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
White06, that's why I said to WAIT. They haven't even been released yet. Of course you'd want to see how they run, how much power they make, and how well they idle. That's why I said to wait a few weeks. AMS has a set of them and should be testing them as we speak.
Noogles, we don't know how the GSC 280s idle yet - may not be the same as other brand 280s, especially on the IX.
Dr. SS, the IX may make 30whp/30wtq over a stock 03/04 w/9.8 hotside, but I'd be happy with 20whp over my 05 w/10.5 hotside. I'm mainly interested in if it can sustain more boost at higher rpm than my stocker here at altitude, but I'm not holding my breath.
Noogles, we don't know how the GSC 280s idle yet - may not be the same as other brand 280s, especially on the IX.
Dr. SS, the IX may make 30whp/30wtq over a stock 03/04 w/9.8 hotside, but I'd be happy with 20whp over my 05 w/10.5 hotside. I'm mainly interested in if it can sustain more boost at higher rpm than my stocker here at altitude, but I'm not holding my breath.
but u think its possible to hit 400 whp with a EVO 8 (10.5 hs) with a ix turbo/cams/alky and other supporting mods?
cuz if so that would be a relatively inexpensive way to do it, considering a new IX turbo is like 800 bucks or so... and used ones would be cheaper....
i guess it would be probably closer to 380whp with that setup.....
Dr. SS, people have been getting around 400whp with those mods on stock 03-05 turbos for a while now. The IX turbo just makes it even easier. No, 30whp/30wtq just by changing the compressor housing is a bit much. Where did you hear that? We've seen a few people add the IX turbo and do before/after dynos with right around 20whp gains (and .2s on their ET).
Btw, haha on the "Takuyoshi Mukai" edition. Are those the real Japanese words for Tommi Makkanen or something?
Btw, haha on the "Takuyoshi Mukai" edition. Are those the real Japanese words for Tommi Makkanen or something?
cool...
ok one last q, with my mods below, im probably around 340whp.. if i add alky that will put me to roughly 380whp, with a LICP maybe 385 whp, what else could i do, (bolt on) to hit that magic 400 whp mark.. maybe a custom road tune over a flash?
ok one last q, with my mods below, im probably around 340whp.. if i add alky that will put me to roughly 380whp, with a LICP maybe 385 whp, what else could i do, (bolt on) to hit that magic 400 whp mark.. maybe a custom road tune over a flash?
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Dr. SS, people have been getting around 400whp with those mods on stock 03-05 turbos for a while now. The IX turbo just makes it even easier. No, 30whp/30wtq just by changing the compressor housing is a bit much. Where did you hear that? We've seen a few people add the IX turbo and do before/after dynos with right around 20whp gains (and .2s on their ET).
Btw, haha on the "Takuyoshi Mukai" edition. Are those the real Japanese words for Tommi Makkanen or something?
Btw, haha on the "Takuyoshi Mukai" edition. Are those the real Japanese words for Tommi Makkanen or something?
I think he's really proud of his EVO so that's why he named the HKS EVO the, "TME IX"
That would be weird to call it TME like that.
Dr. SS, that's a lot of assuming. You need to verify you have 340whp first, because although I'd hope you have that much, you need to be sure. Then, with alky, don't expect to gain 40whp, because as we crank the boost, the returns are diminishing. You usually gain a lot more peak tq than peak hp, so I would say 370whp/390wtq at that point. Then, you add LICP, ported manifold, and fmic. All that with a good custom tune, and you'd be right around that 400whp mark. Even if you only made 380, your wtq would be 400. Btw, a custom road tune IS a flash - they are not mutually exclusive.
Dr. SS, that's a lot of assuming. You need to verify you have 340whp first, because although I'd hope you have that much, you need to be sure. Then, with alky, don't expect to gain 40whp, because as we crank the boost, the returns are diminishing. You usually gain a lot more peak tq than peak hp, so I would say 370whp/390wtq at that point. Then, you add LICP, ported manifold, and fmic. All that with a good custom tune, and you'd be right around that 400whp mark. Even if you only made 380, your wtq would be 400. Btw, a custom road tune IS a flash - they are not mutually exclusive.
First post on this subject, but thought my IX's dyno/mods might help. I have 06 IX RS. Just had Buschur add Deluxe FMIC, IC pipes, 3" V-band exhaust w/bullet muffler, 272 HKS exhaust, NO injector change, MBC set to 26 psi, stock turbo, HD Exedy twin-disc cerametallic clutch, CAI, mini-battery, 255 Walbro pump, ARP head studs. Buschurs Mustang Dyno (known to measure 13-20% less whp than a Dynojet) showed my IX at 299whp and 310 wtq. This was done during recent floods in the area (high humidity). I also have a VW 1.8T with 370 whp on a Dynojet and no question, the IX would win. With that in mind, I did some backward calculating to relate Buschur's website figures for an VIII with the same changes, except the VIII gets the intake cam. By starting at 420 CRANK hp, reducing it by 15% for drive train loss, the DYNOJET would register 357 whp for my IX. This is pretty much in line with the Buschur 'DYNOJET' figures given for the VIII with intake cam. They show the VIII with 380 whp, but as Dan told me, "That figure is on a Dynojet, so people can relate to it, since most people don't understand the difference in Mustang vs Dynojet comparisons. So, with 357 whp on the Dynojet and since the Mustang registers an average of 16% less, that would put my car on the Mustang @ 299. Guess what, that's what I made. Hope these mods and dyno numbers help those making similar changes.
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
That would be weird to call it TME like that.
Dr. SS, that's a lot of assuming. You need to verify you have 340whp first, because although I'd hope you have that much, you need to be sure. Then, with alky, don't expect to gain 40whp, because as we crank the boost, the returns are diminishing. You usually gain a lot more peak tq than peak hp, so I would say 370whp/390wtq at that point. Then, you add LICP, ported manifold, and fmic. All that with a good custom tune, and you'd be right around that 400whp mark. Even if you only made 380, your wtq would be 400. Btw, a custom road tune IS a flash - they are not mutually exclusive.
Dr. SS, that's a lot of assuming. You need to verify you have 340whp first, because although I'd hope you have that much, you need to be sure. Then, with alky, don't expect to gain 40whp, because as we crank the boost, the returns are diminishing. You usually gain a lot more peak tq than peak hp, so I would say 370whp/390wtq at that point. Then, you add LICP, ported manifold, and fmic. All that with a good custom tune, and you'd be right around that 400whp mark. Even if you only made 380, your wtq would be 400. Btw, a custom road tune IS a flash - they are not mutually exclusive.
i think im going to go that route, get to 400 whp first then just go BIG turbo from there when 400 whp feels slow to me.... so next will be dyno, then licp, alky, fmic, and then a custom dyno tune....
Last edited by Dr. SS; Jun 30, 2006 at 04:08 PM.