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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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Who said anything racing from a roll? For those of you who smoke crack dipped in acid: Racing from a dig (like real men do) you have a very good chance at beating any of these vehicles except maybe a Z06 which would most definitely roast a stock Evo. The aforementioned "muscle cars" are very heavy (remember F=ma ???) and also have no traction (on street tires). I have destroyed Cobra's over and over again in a stock Evo.
spare me the sermon, i had a 2001 camaro SS six speed manual and killed many sti's and evo 8's from a stop and a roll (stock ones)...

the whole "muscle cars are very heavy" is true only to an extent, they are not 4000 pounders, my SS was 3600 lbs with me in it, spare, jack, and a full tank of gas.

id like you to see u destroy a 03 cobra at the track from a dig in a stock EVO, in the 1/4 mile.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sonicnofadz
Who said anything racing from a roll? For those of you who smoke crack dipped in acid: Racing from a dig (like real men do) you have a very good chance at beating any of these vehicles except maybe a Z06 which would most definitely roast a stock Evo. The aforementioned "muscle cars" are very heavy (remember F=ma ???) and also have no traction (on street tires). I have destroyed Cobra's over and over again in a stock Evo.
yeah you might beat them from a dig for what a 1/4 mile......and at the quater they will be right on your ***......anything longer than a 1/4 mile race and there *** is gone...even if you race from a dig......
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. SS
spare me the sermon, i had a 2001 camaro SS six speed manual and killed many sti's and evo 8's from a stop and a roll (stock ones)...

the whole "muscle cars are very heavy" is true only to an extent, they are not 4000 pounders, my SS was 3600 lbs with me in it, spare, jack, and a full tank of gas.

id like you to see u destroy a 03 cobra at the track from a dig in a stock EVO, in the 1/4 mile.
every 03+ cobra i have seen at the track has ran a 14+....lol there isnt the best drivers around here......
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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hell i think that Evo 9's with just a TBE (not even a flash) could walk CTS-V's with equal drivers in the cars....
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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every 03+ cobra i have seen at the track has ran a 14+....lol there isnt the best drivers around here......
yeah seriously, considering its a car that hits 12's out of the box. and with a 150 dollar pulley, a tune, and a x-piped exhaust its game over.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. SS
spare me the sermon, i had a 2001 camaro SS six speed manual and killed many sti's and evo 8's from a stop and a roll (stock ones)...

the whole "muscle cars are very heavy" is true only to an extent, they are not 4000 pounders, my SS was 3600 lbs with me in it, spare, jack, and a full tank of gas.

id like you to see u destroy a 03 cobra at the track from a dig in a stock EVO, in the 1/4 mile.
Stock Cobras are slow. If they are not launched perfectly they usually get eaten alive by an AWD machine such as the STI or Evo. I've beaten plenty of Camaro SS's (in my modified Evo) but I think they are pretty close stock. It really comes down to the driver. It takes way more skill to launch a RWD car, and if they screw it up the guy in the AWD car is going to take him.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sonicnofadz
Stock Cobras are slow. If they are not launched perfectly they usually get eaten alive by an AWD machine such as the STI or Evo. I've beaten plenty of Camaro SS's (in my modified Evo) but I think they are pretty close stock. It really comes down to the driver. It takes way more skill to launch a RWD car, and if they screw it up the guy in the AWD car is going to take him.
popular miconception that a awd car is easy to launch, just rev it up and popping the clutch isnt the case unless u want a pile of clutch at the end of the race.

stock for stock, a 01 + ss camaro, or T/A ws-6 (the ones with the z06 intake manifold, z06 clutch, and slave cylinder and different cam than pre 01 ls1's, aluminum driveshaft) will take a stock evo 8 or 9 when drivers are equal.

u must have raced people who couldnt drive worth a **** and in older ls1's. the 01/02's were like the IX's of the evo world, factory freaks, easily putting 310-330 RWHP down in factory trim and were grossly underrated. im not a domestic nutswinger, i appreciate all fast cars and call it like it is.

if u think 03 cobras are slow, i dont know what to say u are just truly extremely biased towards your own car and wont give props to another fast car.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sonicnofadz
Stock Cobras are slow. If they are not launched perfectly they usually get eaten alive by an AWD machine such as the STI or Evo. I've beaten plenty of Camaro SS's (in my modified Evo) but I think they are pretty close stock. It really comes down to the driver. It takes way more skill to launch a RWD car, and if they screw it up the guy in the AWD car is going to take him.
a stock 03-04 cobra is faster than any stock evo available in the states and just as moddable.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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a stock 03-04 cobra is faster than any stock evo available in the states and just as moddable.
word to the motherfuxin word.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. SS
yeah seriously, considering its a car that hits 12's out of the box. and with a 150 dollar pulley, a tune, and a x-piped exhaust its game over.
I've never seen an 03 Cobra hit 12s "out of the box" and I've seen plenty run (check out Hot Rod magazine's Cobra STi comparo). They struggle to hit mid 13s. Put on slicks and $1100 worth of parts and I've seen them run 11s, but without the slicks, major trouble hooking up. Same thing for the LSs, Camaro, F Bird, GTO.......On the other hand, it isn't uncommon for stock EVOs (05s and 06s) to run 12s.

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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by robertrinaustin
I've never seen an 03 Cobra hit 12s "out of the box" and I've seen plenty run (check out Hot Rod magazine's Cobra STi comparo). They struggle to hit mid 13s. Put on slicks and $1100 worth of parts and I've seen them run 11s, but without the slicks, major trouble hooking up. Same thing for the LSs, Camaro, F Bird, GTO.......On the other hand, it isn't uncommon for stock EVOs (05s and 06s) to run 12s.
you've got to be kidding me. u havent looked hard enough.

a 99 camaro ss went 12.9 in the 1/4 and that is before the improvements with z06 parts from the LS6 in the 01+ models. this was in MMFF (muscle mustangs and fast fords)

never seen a 03 cobra run 12's out of the box? go to the mustang boards and lurk for a bit, u will be in for a suprise, stop quoting what u read in magazines.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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These posts are funny. Go read modularfords.com, svtperformance.com, ls1tech.com, and look at what people get out of stock Ls1's and Cobras. Even more impressive is look what they run with 5K in them.

Venomous aka John ran a 10.1@141mph with 5K in a cobra. Go read up and it's plain as day.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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Why drag with an evo?
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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I rarely see the back of mullets from V8 Maro and Stang drivers. Granted with a Visnu'd IX MR launching at 6k is enough to school practically anything short of a 911 Turbo.

8/10 Cobras blow the launch and run high 13's. Too much power is the case, hell even some mags are getting 12.9 with the new 500hp Shelby. While capable of high 11's it does not mean $hit unless its hooks up.

Im an ex Cobra owner FWIW.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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Don't you guys know by now that there are fanbois in here that think there car is god. Just don't even bother. Whoever thinks cobra's are slow, boy are they in for a suprise, just wait until they run into one on the streets (same goes for cts-v, LS1 camaro etc.). Sometimes you just got to ignore the ignorant ones.



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