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Snapping lug nut bolts........?

Old Aug 1, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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Snapping lug nut bolts........?

This will be my 2nd one in 4 months....I know for a fact I have not cross threaded them, Hand tighten till wheel is snug.......is this normal? How can I prevent this? Is it my torque?


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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DrivenToThrill
Hand tighten till wheel is snug.......is this normal? How can I prevent this? Is it my torque?
What Torque number is your "hand tighten till snug" done to? Use a torque wrench to find out and tell us. You should not exceed 100ftLbs... I believe the stock number is around 80 something.
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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No i mean I twist the lugs on by hand till they are snug then I get the lug wrench and tighten the rest. So you think its being torqued down to much? Should I just replace all of them to play it safe?

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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 08:53 AM
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What Torque number is your "tighten the rest" with lug wrench done to? Use a torque wrench to find out and tell us. Only then can we tell if it is you or your studs.
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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Wheel nuts should be tighten to 73+/-7 ftlb. It's actually not all that much, specially if you actually have cleaned threads with a very slight touch of anti-sieze (high temp).

Also, the very important thing is to not torque them while they're hot. Parts get significantly weaker when hot and much more likely to break.
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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your probably doing what i used to do.... tighten it by standing on the cross bar.... i snapped one by doing that
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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Actually Im not, but good point, Im actually just using my arms lol, but Im not pushing real hard. just till it stops.


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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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Do you change your wheels frequently? If you do, you probably want to use some anti-seize compound on the lugs. I use Permatex anti seize on the lugs on all my cars. It's especially important on the one I autoX because I'm changing wheels and retorqueing lug nuts 6-8 times a month sometimes. Just a little dab on each one on the threads is all you need.

I would also strongly recommend using a torque wrench to properly torque the lug nuts to spec.
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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Definitely use anti-seize and a torque wrench.

Did you buy the car used? If so, no telling what type of hell the previous owner put them through. Might not be a bad idea to just replace them all for piece of mind.
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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you need to lay of the guns there he-man
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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Torque wrench and anti-seize!!! I never touch a wheel without both. Some may argue the anti-seize on the wheel studs... however that argument is baseless.
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DrivenToThrill
Actually Im not, but good point, Im actually just using my arms lol, but Im not pushing real hard. just till it stops.
Well, till it stops is hard to define. The correct torque is 73 ft lbs. , this on clean dry threads. Also, have the mounting surface of the wheel and the face of the rotor clean of rust. If left unremoved, the rust can fall out leaving the lug nuts loose even if correctly tightened to the correct torque.

You may have a set of lugs that have been stretched to breaking by some air gun jockey.
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ibanez_926
you need to lay of the guns there he-man

OK i will try HAHA......I will invest in anti seize and torque wrench, Thanks guys


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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by x838nwy
Wheel nuts should be tighten to 73+/-7 ftlb. It's actually not all that much, specially if you actually have cleaned threads with a very slight touch of anti-sieze (high temp).

Also, the very important thing is to not torque them while they're hot. Parts get significantly weaker when hot and much more likely to break.
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