Objective Test Data for Buschur Filter vs. Stock Airbox
mitsuorder,
Before you make a statement like "Does the new Buschur filter do a better job of filtering than the old one" don't you think it would be a good idea to first find out if it does a good job or not? I mean you have 86,000 miles on the car, you put 84,000 miles on our filter. Now you are going to run a different filter until 89,000 miles and then do an oil test. Who's to say that 3,000 additional miles with this new filter isn't putting dirt in your engine? Why not do the test like a test, before and after you have run or changed filters?
Before you make a statement like "Does the new Buschur filter do a better job of filtering than the old one" don't you think it would be a good idea to first find out if it does a good job or not? I mean you have 86,000 miles on the car, you put 84,000 miles on our filter. Now you are going to run a different filter until 89,000 miles and then do an oil test. Who's to say that 3,000 additional miles with this new filter isn't putting dirt in your engine? Why not do the test like a test, before and after you have run or changed filters?
Originally Posted by MIevo8MR
We'll have to try the temp test next.
Just make sure you test the temp on the road, not the dyno. Of course Im referring to the fact that when the vehicle starts moving forward, fresh air starts flowing into the engine compartment.
This thread can easily mix up people... what people need to remember is that
the turbo is the reason here! If the stock box limits the max air flow that the turbo can suck, then yes it is going to hinder the performance of the car and the need for a better flowing filter should be used.
The turbo can only suck as much as it is given, and a filter can only flow as much as the turbo can suck. So if you put a bigger turbo with a stock air box, that air box will flow more air than a stock turbo could, but it would be more efficient with a filter that will not hinder the flow of the turbo as much as the stock box.
The intake tube is where the temp plays its part. Plastic/rubber retains less heat than metal + the benifit of the stock wrinkle tubing helps lower MAF frequencies from going crazy. Metal intakes get heat soked anyways. Also if you think about it once the air gets compressed and runs through the turbo the temp comes right up to the same heat level even if the air was colder, so temps clearly depend on the intercooler and boost levels! David takes all this into account when he builds his stages, thats why he runs 8's
the turbo is the reason here! If the stock box limits the max air flow that the turbo can suck, then yes it is going to hinder the performance of the car and the need for a better flowing filter should be used.
The turbo can only suck as much as it is given, and a filter can only flow as much as the turbo can suck. So if you put a bigger turbo with a stock air box, that air box will flow more air than a stock turbo could, but it would be more efficient with a filter that will not hinder the flow of the turbo as much as the stock box.
The intake tube is where the temp plays its part. Plastic/rubber retains less heat than metal + the benifit of the stock wrinkle tubing helps lower MAF frequencies from going crazy. Metal intakes get heat soked anyways. Also if you think about it once the air gets compressed and runs through the turbo the temp comes right up to the same heat level even if the air was colder, so temps clearly depend on the intercooler and boost levels! David takes all this into account when he builds his stages, thats why he runs 8's
Last edited by Vivid Racing; Oct 25, 2006 at 02:52 PM.
Originally Posted by davidbuschur
mitsuorder,
Before you make a statement like "Does the new Buschur filter do a better job of filtering than the old one" don't you think it would be a good idea to first find out if it does a good job or not? I mean you have 86,000 miles on the car, you put 84,000 miles on our filter. Now you are going to run a different filter until 89,000 miles and then do an oil test. Who's to say that 3,000 additional miles with this new filter isn't putting dirt in your engine? Why not do the test like a test, before and after you have run or changed filters?
Before you make a statement like "Does the new Buschur filter do a better job of filtering than the old one" don't you think it would be a good idea to first find out if it does a good job or not? I mean you have 86,000 miles on the car, you put 84,000 miles on our filter. Now you are going to run a different filter until 89,000 miles and then do an oil test. Who's to say that 3,000 additional miles with this new filter isn't putting dirt in your engine? Why not do the test like a test, before and after you have run or changed filters?
I am for sure going to keep with your filter for the test. This much mileage on the car with it, it would be stupid to swap before the test was ran. Please don't take my previous post as an attack. You guys have taken good care of me in the past, I'm not ******* your product, was more like thinking out loud about possibilities. But I have to ask if their are any differences in the new white filters capabilities over the old style as I would upgrade if it were warranted. After the 89k oil analysis of course
Out for a few days for a funeral so pardon if I don't reply immediately to threads.
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FYI, I finally posted the study data for intake air temp during idle conditions. Sorry for the long delay (work has been very busy).
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