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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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My other suggestion is to get yourself an electric-heater-cuhsiony-thingy for the seats. Don't get the vibrating-thingy because the stuff in it make them lumpy and uncomfortable for the long drive.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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I just bought the Mastercraft Glacier-grip 2's for $108.00 per tire mounted and balanced that was not for the studed model just the snowtire.

I have ran them 2 years on my AWD DSM and they work great they can even stand a warm summer without balling up.




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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tcollins
"Retail" is about $262/tire, if anyone is interested. That is, for the Evo-standard 235/45-17. So, not too much unlike the Yokohama A-046 tires. I imagine both tires are excellent performers in their respective areas of expertise. Might be too much for what I need, though. The Blizzak WS-50 seem to be under $160 each, though I can't find the 235/45-17 tire size on Tire Rack. I mean, THERE'S a savings of $400.
bargain with the guys. i run the RSi and didn't pay anywhere near that. i got them to match the price of the WS-50. granted, it was through my brother who works at a garage so it was him dealing with their tire supplier (still not nokian, he's at a small garage and doesn't deal directly with any tire manufacturers), but you'll be able to do way better than $262/tire. other than that just make sure all of your maintenance is done, oil is where it should be, coolant is good, and drive. it wasn't very cold last winter and it was my first winter with my car, but no issues at all. i wouldn't worry about an engine block heater if you have a good battery, but i may come to regret that if it gets cold this winter
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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bargain with the guys. i run the RSi and didn't pay anywhere near that. i got them to match the price of the WS-50. granted, it was through my brother who works at a garage so it was him dealing with their tire supplier (still not nokian, he's at a small garage and doesn't deal directly with any tire manufacturers), but you'll be able to do way better than $262/tire. other than that just make sure all of your maintenance is done, oil is where it should be, coolant is good, and drive. it wasn't very cold last winter and it was my first winter with my car, but no issues at all. i wouldn't worry about an engine block heater if you have a good battery, but i may come to regret that if it gets cold this winter
Ya, $212 at www.tiresbyweb.com. Still looking. Through experience, I found that the block heater has little to do with the battery. Unless the engine radiates enough heat to affect the temperature of the battery. That's why they make battery warmers. Or you run your headlights for a few moments to cycle some of those crazy little electrons through the chemicals of the energy cells. Block heaters: http://www.athropolis.com/arctic-fac...t-car-cold.htm

Only one way to find out if it can survive the cold and harsh Canadian climate LOL. We should be close enough to Great Falls, Montana that if an EVO can survive there, it can survive where I'm going.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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My other suggestion is to get yourself an electric-heater-cuhsiony-thingy for the seats. Don't get the vibrating-thingy because the stuff in it make them lumpy and uncomfortable for the long drive.
I've driven from San Diego to Canada and back. And then 2 years later from San Diego to Seattle. Both in the non-winter months. I do like the seats. Though cruise control would have been a nice touch.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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Just go with the WS-50's in a 215/50-17. End of tire decision. Then you can concentrate on keeping her warm at night. We put propane heaters under the oil pans on semis and it works great.
Back to the tires. You want a narrow tire to increase the psi. A 215 is recommended for up to a 7.5' rim, but it will work on an eight. Plus it's $13 cheaper than a 235. I run a 205 on a 5 in. rim. My car is usually in the snow Nov thru April/May. I am not easy on my car in the snow. Bashing thru anything I can find. It will push snow over the hood anytime. A thick coat of wax keeps the paint fine. Mud flaps keep the snow accumulation down. I also got a diffuser for this year to keep the snow from packing in under the bumper. This is probably only an issue on my car because the 16's I run(that clear the Brembo's) have a few mm more offset than stock. Combine with the taller tire I run, I get some fender rubbing in the rear when the rear is weighted down. That could actually give you better traction.
As far as tire brand goes I've tried ws-50's on two different vehicles. Firestone Winterfires(now called Winterforce) and Nokian. I was not impressed with the Nokians. They also wore real fast. The Firestone would push thru a good 20in. of snow on a fwd car as good as my ram 4x 1500 in 4x. Until you stopped. If you stopped in that much snow you walked.
I posted some pictures last year of the Evo in snow. Search 16in. rims in the wheel/tire forum and you should be able to find them.
I saw someone was talking about putting cardboard in front of the radiator. This has been proven on semis to not be good. Creates hot spots in the radiator. Better of blocking the holes in the grill for less airflow.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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In all honesty you shouldn't need anything like a block heater. It's maybe 0 degress celsius today. Come December it might drop to -10 to -20 but even then I don't need to plug my car in.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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Ya, I was leaning toward the WS-50's for the price and function and tread pattern. It is this:
http://www.weatherunderground.com/hi...lyHistory.html
where it says -27 °C that I'm trying to manage as well. But that's not the coldest I've seen it in Med Hat. Calgary, on average, sees more milder winters. Then again, it is Calgary that I saw it drop to -40C. If I can't get a good enough of a price on the Nokians then I'll go with the WS-50's.

I assume this is the link that tahoeacr is talking about:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=176543
I say GEEZE !!! https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/at...chmentid=81441
How much clearance do you have on that thing?
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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Ok, I made it with the war wounds to show for:

Custom two tone paint job So, where's all the snow at? How come Southern Alberta is rather, um, warm and dry? Sheesh. Maybe I need to make a trip down to Denver LOL.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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Global warming. It's still cold in the mountains, skiing is nice.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tcollins
I'm going home (to Canada) for Christmas. I would like to drive the EVO up to play in the snow. Other than tires and rims, what other winter preperation do I need? I know I should probably ensure I got my oil and antifreeze set up right, but what else? I asked the dealership about engine block heaters but no part is listed for the EVO. How is it to survive when the temperature drops to -35°C?

I've been looking at these tires:
  • Nokian Hakkapeliitta Rsi (don't know yet if they are available here in the US)
  • Michelin X-Ice
  • Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50
Any thoughts how to keep my baby warm and safe in the dead of winter. No, no warm garage is possible. She's going to be sleeping under the stars. Thoughts?
Hey man, personally I would look for some Michelin Pilot Alpins for the EVO. I KNOW it is a performance vehicle (Duh to me) and if you were to put a T rated or S rated tire on, you run the risk of insurance not covering you in case of a winter mishap.

I think most EVOs come with a W or Y rated tire, so the only real choice you have is to go with an H rated tire. True, it isn't suited to the vehicle still, but it has more sidewall support then a regular x-ice plus insurance companies accept that as a good replacement winter tire for performance vehicles.

If you do go with a S or T rated tire, then you will definately notice shyte handling on colder roads. (Let's face it, snow is snow, and no one will really know how the car is handling in that shyte) But I do know for a fact that the Pilot Alpins have the extra sidewall plys to try and keep handling as good as it can be.... only problem is that they take a little longer to heat up because of the harder compound.

As for the other tires, I haven't heard much about them. I used to deal mainly with Michelin /BFG and 'Good'year/Dunlop when I worked at Sam's Club. I had to make some guy sign a waiver stating I had warned him about using a T rated tire on his BMW 318i. (Loss of proper handling and risk of insurance droppage) Last I heard, he wiped out by not driving to conditions, and due to the tires being mismatched for the car, his insurance refused to pay out for the damages to it.... Hope all goes well and your trip is a blast up here man. Just my 0.02

***EDIT--- Damn, too late.... Still, hope the trip was a blast.... you should patent the 2 tone you got man.... maybe all the Hondas out there will pay big bucks for it.... LOL

Last edited by SXTNYNR; Dec 21, 2006 at 10:00 AM. Reason: Dumbass here was too late....
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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Ok, I made it with the war wounds to show for:

Custom two tone paint job So, where's all the snow at? How come Southern Alberta is rather, um, warm and dry? Sheesh. Maybe I need to make a trip down to Denver LOL.

in michigan we have not had much snow and what snow we have had has already gone due to all the rain. I have not even turned on the heat when i am working on the car yet.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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hey, I am going to Ottawa for the Holiday's.....I just got Enkei RS 5, 17 x 7 with Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D Size 205 50 17's installed for the snow....

Of course there is no snow anywhere, except Denver!!

Originally Posted by tcollins
I'm going home (to Canada) for Christmas. I would like to drive the EVO up to play in the snow. Other than tires and rims, what other winter preperation do I need? I know I should probably ensure I got my oil and antifreeze set up right, but what else? I asked the dealership about engine block heaters but no part is listed for the EVO. How is it to survive when the temperature drops to -35°C?

I've been looking at these tires:
  • Nokian Hakkapeliitta Rsi (don't know yet if they are available here in the US)
  • Michelin X-Ice
  • Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50
Any thoughts how to keep my baby warm and safe in the dead of winter. No, no warm garage is possible. She's going to be sleeping under the stars. Thoughts?
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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maybe raise the car a bit. don't want to pack snow in the wheel wells.

I got Hankook Ice Bear snow/ice tires and they're great for $100 each...
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 08:22 AM
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SWEET!

Apparently this is a small part of the 20cm (like, almost 8") we are expecting to fall today. Its white, a few days after Christmas, but its still white

Ya, we'll have to see about snow packing under/in/around/on the car today. Too late to lift it. But I'm not worrying much.
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