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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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just wondering how you fit a d2r bulb in a 9006 socket?
It would have to be a d2r rebased for a 9006 socket. They should sell them. I found d2r rebased for 9007's a while back on ebay.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lookslikeanevo
just wondering how you fit a d2r bulb in a 9006 socket?
Yeah you have to get the rebased bulbs. Go to hidexpert if you need them. I think its like around 100 for a pair.

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D2r bulbs have a glair pattern on the bulb where it shouldnt be for projector housings. So by installing d2r's in a projector housing, you wont be getting maximum light output. D2r's for the fogs though.
Thanks for the info. And I thought the d2r was good I can't wait for the d2s to see how they look like.

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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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so the non HID headlights will have 9006 bulbs and in order to use that Denso kit you need to get the rebased bulbs?
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CRX2EVO
so the non HID headlights will have 9006 bulbs and in order to use that Denso kit you need to get the rebased bulbs?
That is correct. You will need rebased bulbs inorder to make them fit. Remember you need the d2s bulbs. Hidexpert is on ebay so you might be able to get it cheaper from ebay, that's how I got mines. Here are some better pictures and also some of how I mounted them. They are in there pretty snug.





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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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cool thanks
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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I found the link! It's under 250 shipped. He's selling some new HID kit but I don't know if they'll fit our cars though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Denso...spagenameZWDVW
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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I'm working on the wiring as we speak. evo 9 GSR to Evo 9 MR oem hid's. Not under standing why I would need to upgrade to a 20A fuse when the ballasts are only pulling around 4.5 Amps and also connecting the ballast to the OEM GSR 4 pin connector. I've got all the wiring down on the 4 pin connector but need to know which wires to hook up to the ballast power and ground.
Ballasts may be drawing 4.5amps under steady state operation, but not during startup. Startup current is huge and can easily exceed 10amps. This is the current that fries many stock harnesses on a lot of vehicles. Under steady state, the HID bulb actually draws less current than halogen bulbs, but not under start up conditions.

The beam pattern on a HID kitted Evo w/ halogen projectors doesn't look too bad. Pretty flat cutoff, although you can see some light hitting the reflectors and going above the cutoff, but it's no big deal. Doesn't seem to be any color, which is also not a big deal. Anyways, my advice is not to buy a cheap kit. Cheap kits = cheap components. Oftentimes this means mismatched bulbs, ballasts that are prone to failure, etc. If I were to buy a kit, I would buy only the one offered by XenonDepot (not their cheap one, but their pricier one that uses Phillips ballasts).

Here's an image I found of an Evo8 HID projector that was fitted into a Scion TC for comparison purposes.

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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 01:03 AM
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It is pretty easy to make a wire harness for the oem HIDs. I would go with this option instead of using a kit. This way, you'll get fog lights also (but you'll need to rig up another harness for the fogs). You will also need to fish some wiring through your firewall to a switch to control the fogs. Another option would be to just connect the fogs directly into your parking lights, so whenever you have you parking lights on, your fogs will be on too!
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 01:04 AM
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That is a crazy looking cutoff!!!

Originally Posted by DarkMastyr
Ballasts may be drawing 4.5amps under steady state operation, but not during startup. Startup current is huge and can easily exceed 10amps. This is the current that fries many stock harnesses on a lot of vehicles. Under steady state, the HID bulb actually draws less current than halogen bulbs, but not under start up conditions.

The beam pattern on a HID kitted Evo w/ halogen projectors doesn't look too bad. Pretty flat cutoff, although you can see some light hitting the reflectors and going above the cutoff, but it's no big deal. Doesn't seem to be any color, which is also not a big deal. Anyways, my advice is not to buy a cheap kit. Cheap kits = cheap components. Oftentimes this means mismatched bulbs, ballasts that are prone to failure, etc. If I were to buy a kit, I would buy only the one offered by XenonDepot (not their cheap one, but their pricier one that uses Phillips ballasts).

Here's an image I found of an Evo8 HID projector that was fitted into a Scion TC for comparison purposes.

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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkMastyr
Ballasts may be drawing 4.5amps under steady state operation, but not during startup. Startup current is huge and can easily exceed 10amps. This is the current that fries many stock harnesses on a lot of vehicles. Under steady state, the HID bulb actually draws less current than halogen bulbs, but not under start up conditions.
I’m going to disagree with you. I’m not an electrician but know some things to get me by dealing with electricity. Why would I upgrade to a bigger Amp fuse when the starting amps/ solid state amps are less than 10 amps. If you upgrade to a 20 amp fuse then your just asking for problems since that fuse will not protect the wire until the line current equals over 20amps, by then my 12 gauge stock wiring harness will be toast anyways. (12 gauge wire is rated for a maximum 20 amps) I’ve already proven that all you need is a 10 amp fuse maximum. Output amps on the OEM ballast = 4.5 amps, input amps = 2.5. I’m running both my ballasts off of the stock wiring and stock fuses, 10 amps.

I'll be doing a write up soon
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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The startup amps are not always less than 10 amps... that's the point. You need a lot of power to fire up HID bulbs since their activation energy is so high. You might be able to get away with a 10amp fuse, but I would use a 15amp at the very least. I believe startup current is typically around 9.5amps and higher.

So let me reiterate, stock OEM ballast output *once the HIDs have already started up* = 4.5amps. Take an ammeter to the ballast right when you start up the HIDs and I absolutely guarantee that you will not measure 4.5amps, but something much higher.
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkMastyr

that cutoff isnt great, color isok, but there are "hot spots" right in the middle
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkMastyr
The startup amps are not always less than 10 amps... that's the point. You need a lot of power to fire up HID bulbs since their activation energy is so high. You might be able to get away with a 10amp fuse, but I would use a 15amp at the very least. I believe startup current is typically around 9.5amps and higher.

So let me reiterate, stock OEM ballast output *once the HIDs have already started up* = 4.5amps. Take an ammeter to the ballast right when you start up the HIDs and I absolutely guarantee that you will not measure 4.5amps, but something much higher.

yea I was planning on doing that. I'll get back to you
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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Here's the d2s bulbs with this kit. Looks much better now because there's no more triangle thingys, also much brighter. Sorry I don't have a pitch black area to go to and take pictures with.



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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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Jrod I look forward to your write up, what kit did you buy?

The 4300 denso kit looks good.
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