Are dealers discounting the Evo?
i got mine for 33G.... brand new... and since you live in the carolinas it should be easier for you... it was in VA... it's called malloy auto mall... ask for mike... they should still be able to give you a good deal... they were the greatest dealership experience ever...
Dont be a salesman if you dont like dealing with customers. Anybody investing that type of money is going to SHOP AROUND for the best price. Dont trust alot of these salesman. I bought them 3 references stating the MSRP on the MR was around $34. They will show you the MITSUBISHI WEBSITE and on the MITSU website the MSRP is listed $36. They tell you that they dont HAGGLE with the EVO's since they are so rare. its all BS. You can get an MR below MSRP.
The view of salespeople on this forum is horrendous. They are there to HELP YOU buy a car. They don't get paid if you go elsewhere. As I stated, if you are honest with them and tell him your intentions they are going to take the time to ensure that you do NOT shop around. EVERY dealership wants you to stay local and build a reputation with you. It's not in their best interest to be rigid with you. If you, as a customer, go in simply asking for the best price and don't fill them in on your intentions then how are they supposed to help? If the customer does their job, the salesman will do theirs. The "shop til' you drop" method is nothing more than a waste of time because they WILL HELP YOU if you provide them honest information. It's quite simple, really...
The view of salespeople on this forum is horrendous. They are there to HELP YOU buy a car. They don't get paid if you go elsewhere. As I stated, if you are honest with them and tell him your intentions they are going to take the time to ensure that you do NOT shop around. EVERY dealership wants you to stay local and build a reputation with you. It's not in their best interest to be rigid with you. If you, as a customer, go in simply asking for the best price and don't fill them in on your intentions then how are they supposed to help? If the customer does their job, the salesman will do theirs. The "shop til' you drop" method is nothing more than a waste of time because they WILL HELP YOU if you provide them honest information. It's quite simple, really...
totally not ture. i still see why in this day and age cars and houses are the only thing we negotiate for. should be like a roll of toilet paper in a store you go in. you buy it and be done. no negotiating.
salesmans to me are the devils spawns.
You're right, there shouldn't be negotiating. But nobody wants to pay retail for a home or a car. If everyone did, life would be simple and everyone would love salespeople. Unfortunately, because it's the most money most people spend in a lifetime (home/car), people feel as if they have to try to pay as little for the most they can. Which, is fair. However, when you shop for one house you don't call a hundred different real estate agents to negotiate with the same client for you. You pick the one who you hear the best things about or are most comfortable with or provide you the best service and confide in them. As you should with your automobile purchasing experience. People still think "oh i'll show them, i'll shop all around and find out x, y, and z prices." What you fail to realize in the age of the internet MOST customers come in already know invoice and what programs/incentives are on the car. There is no cloak and dagger like there was in the industry 20 or however many years ago. You, like some people, still have the old-school anti-salesperson mentality. It's customers like you who always have poor purchasing experiences because you set yourself up for them. As they say, you get what you give.
You can't really compare buying a car with buying a house. They're both big transactions, but that's where the similarity ends. A new EVO IX on one lot is identical to an new EVO IX on another lot. The only real difference between the two is price.
With a house, there are hundreds of variables that make every one different - location, neighborhood, school district, taxes, land, age, builder, design, upgrades, problems, etc. etc. the list goes on forever. And real estate transactions can become very complicated.
That isn't analogous to a car salesman. You don't really need the car salesman to buy a car. In most cases (especially with an enthusiast car like an Evo), the buyer knows more about the car than the salesman!
With a house, there are hundreds of variables that make every one different - location, neighborhood, school district, taxes, land, age, builder, design, upgrades, problems, etc. etc. the list goes on forever. And real estate transactions can become very complicated.
That isn't analogous to a car salesman. You don't really need the car salesman to buy a car. In most cases (especially with an enthusiast car like an Evo), the buyer knows more about the car than the salesman!
Being that I work for a high-end car dealership (Porsche/Audi/VW) I think it's funny that everyone says, "shop, shop, shop". That's not the best way to go about it because all you do by "shopping" is make the salesperson you are dealing with (who doesn't get paid to hang out with you, we work on commission you know 
) angry because you, more likely than not, will not buy the car from him no matter how good of service he provides you. MOST people will drive all around and the last place they go, they'll buy the car just because they're tired of going all around and the last place already knows what you want and what they have to do because you've been around the block and back. INSTEAD of doing this, how about trying the honest approach with your salesman. Let them know you're ready to buy a car, and intend on purchasing from them so long as they're willing to realize that you won't settle for anything less than paying invoice for the vehicle knowing that you're familiar with the market. If you have to show them a reference point, don't be afraid to show them links online to dealers that advertise. They will remind you that you are buying the car locally and won't have to worry about shipping and such, and will also tell you it's a long drive to x, y, or z for service if you ever have a problem. SERVICE is something EVO drivers should value. I say you're much better off building a relationship with your local Mitsu dealer, even if it costs you a few hundred dollars more. You will save hours of your time and I promise you your service experiences (again, in most cases) will be much more pleasurable when you take your vehicle to the dealership you purchased it from.
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) angry because you, more likely than not, will not buy the car from him no matter how good of service he provides you. MOST people will drive all around and the last place they go, they'll buy the car just because they're tired of going all around and the last place already knows what you want and what they have to do because you've been around the block and back. INSTEAD of doing this, how about trying the honest approach with your salesman. Let them know you're ready to buy a car, and intend on purchasing from them so long as they're willing to realize that you won't settle for anything less than paying invoice for the vehicle knowing that you're familiar with the market. If you have to show them a reference point, don't be afraid to show them links online to dealers that advertise. They will remind you that you are buying the car locally and won't have to worry about shipping and such, and will also tell you it's a long drive to x, y, or z for service if you ever have a problem. SERVICE is something EVO drivers should value. I say you're much better off building a relationship with your local Mitsu dealer, even if it costs you a few hundred dollars more. You will save hours of your time and I promise you your service experiences (again, in most cases) will be much more pleasurable when you take your vehicle to the dealership you purchased it from.End of rant
Whatever
It was such a pleasure when I brought my last car a scion, price on the sticker is the price you pay, anywhere, toyota set. Joy to buy. Salesman said he loves selling them, becuase he can focus on explaining why the car is good compared to other cars rather than spend his time working out if he can fleece you for more. To say that salesmen are there to help you buy a car is madness, the salesman job is to sell you a car for as much of a profit as they can get. One dealer I went to, actually the one that had the lowest price (but not by much) would do the "Sorry I don't want you to walk out over $500, but I can't do any less" and then once the person actually left they would go outside and pursuade them to come back in, call someones bluff and then continue negotiating. If that isn't old skool car sales techniques I don't know what is. I had no intention of giving them my money. I went with the guys that I felt were the least 'salesy'. People have such bad opinions of car salesmen, because of their experience with car salesmen.
I 2nd that. The salesman dont know JACK about the EVO. The first dealership that I went too was a GIRL SALESMAN. LOL. She had no idea about the EVO. She was trying to tell me that the FWD cars and AWD cars dont matter no more. That FWD is just as GOOD as AWD. HAAAAAAAAAAA. laughed in her face. Thats why I found another dealership and I met an EVO SPECIALIST. He knew the EVO in and out. He test drives them for a living. He told me about the EVO X. He test drove the concept in CALI. From what I heard the X is not as fun as the IX. Also the dealerships have one goal. TO SELL CARS. Some are honest and most are not. Most of them want to put hidden charges tell you something thats not true. Tell you that the price cant be lowered. You just have to know how to deal with these GRIMEY people. also timing is important. If you buy a new car. ALWAYS plan to buy it at the END OF THE MONTH or if you patient enought END OF THE YEAR. Each month they have a quota to match. they try to get whatever they can out.
That isn't analogous to a car salesman. You don't really need the car salesman to buy a car. In most cases (especially with an enthusiast car like an Evo), the buyer knows more about the car than the salesman![/QUOTE]
That isn't analogous to a car salesman. You don't really need the car salesman to buy a car. In most cases (especially with an enthusiast car like an Evo), the buyer knows more about the car than the salesman![/QUOTE]
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You're right, there shouldn't be negotiating. But nobody wants to pay retail for a home or a car. If everyone did, life would be simple and everyone would love salespeople. Unfortunately, because it's the most money most people spend in a lifetime (home/car), people feel as if they have to try to pay as little for the most they can. Which, is fair. However, when you shop for one house you don't call a hundred different real estate agents to negotiate with the same client for you. You pick the one who you hear the best things about or are most comfortable with or provide you the best service and confide in them. As you should with your automobile purchasing experience. People still think "oh i'll show them, i'll shop all around and find out x, y, and z prices." What you fail to realize in the age of the internet MOST customers come in already know invoice and what programs/incentives are on the car. There is no cloak and dagger like there was in the industry 20 or however many years ago. You, like some people, still have the old-school anti-salesperson mentality. It's customers like you who always have poor purchasing experiences because you set yourself up for them. As they say, you get what you give.
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I 2nd that. The salesman dont know JACK about the EVO. The first dealership that I went too was a GIRL SALESMAN. LOL. She had no idea about the EVO. She was trying to tell me that the FWD cars and AWD cars dont matter no more. That FWD is just as GOOD as AWD. HAAAAAAAAAAA. laughed in her face. Thats why I found another dealership and I met an EVO SPECIALIST. He knew the EVO in and out. He test drives them for a living. He told me about the EVO X. He test drove the concept in CALI. From what I heard the X is not as fun as the IX. Also the dealerships have one goal. TO SELL CARS. Some are honest and most are not. Most of them want to put hidden charges tell you something thats not true. Tell you that the price cant be lowered. You just have to know how to deal with these GRIMEY people. also timing is important. If you buy a new car. ALWAYS plan to buy it at the END OF THE MONTH or if you patient enought END OF THE YEAR. Each month they have a quota to match. they try to get whatever they can out.
That isn't analogous to a car salesman. You don't really need the car salesman to buy a car. In most cases (especially with an enthusiast car like an Evo), the buyer knows more about the car than the salesman!
That isn't analogous to a car salesman. You don't really need the car salesman to buy a car. In most cases (especially with an enthusiast car like an Evo), the buyer knows more about the car than the salesman!
Exactly! I stopped by the dealership late at night say 8 30 pm they close at 9 pm and some guy helped me and he didnt even know he difference between the MR and IX. So i was thank you I'll come back tomorrow. So i did and some other guy apparently one of their best salesman helped me out and I put my place in a piece of saying saying "30,000 out of the door" and after say a hour or two going back and forth I got it for 31,800 out of the door.
Off topic - One day I went to Fry's Electronic to inquire about this one Fujitsu laptop and some lady salesman helped me out, she basically read from top to bottom the specs sheet and thanks G*d I know about computer if not I would've been like
in her face but it's ok she was a hottie and I bought the laptop from her :P and later on I took her out for lunch
