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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 04:16 AM
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I really don't understand why anyone would buy anywhere other than S. Coast, Victorville, etc., unless their more local to them dealer will price match. Mine wouldn't, and the difference wasn't like 200, it was like more than 2000, even with paying shipping across the country.

They were pretty stunned to see the deal was for real when I brought the car in to have the front license plate holder installed. The sales manager even asked to see the sales invoice. Yeah, they may decide to extract "revenge" if/when I ever need "service," (although they seem very happy to get any warranty work that comes their way on this car) but I refuse to be held hostage by that thought when THOUSANDS of dollars are at stake.
Most stealerships truly are scum, imo. But I'd do business with S. Coast again in a heartbeat. There were zero extras on the bill, too - like "dealer prep" etc. It was well worth the shipping fee.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 06:42 AM
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I got my electric blue, only one sitting in the lot, for 2000 under MSRP and they gave me some recent college grad thing for an extra 500 bux so I got a good deal. Alot of guys around me in north jersey and NY have been getting similar deals not sure for other areas.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 07:04 AM
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Wow.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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Calling salesmen scum and auto dealerships stealerships is quite offensive if you were wondering. Being as I'm a Sales & Leasing Consultant such talk rather offends me as I previously stated. You may have had poor experiences but I once again ask you to kindly take into consideration those of us who actually care about the cars and are here to help people try to have positive purchase experiences. I could be doing something else, I earned my MBA in Clinical Psychology from the U of Albany here in NY but I choose to work in the sales field because I ENJOY what I do. I care about the product and like nothing more than to see someone have a good buying experience and get into a car they truly enjoy. As the Mitsu Internet Sales manager said there are, without a question, some people in our profession that have questionable practices and background though you cannot reference that to the entire profession as a whole. It's not appreciated. Thank you.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by UpstateEVOVIII
Calling salesmen scum and auto dealerships stealerships is quite offensive if you were wondering. Being as I'm a Sales & Leasing Consultant such talk rather offends me as I previously stated. You may have had poor experiences but I once again ask you to kindly take into consideration those of us who actually care about the cars and are here to help people try to have positive purchase experiences. I could be doing something else, I earned my MBA in Clinical Psychology from the U of Albany here in NY but I choose to work in the sales field because I ENJOY what I do. I care about the product and like nothing more than to see someone have a good buying experience and get into a car they truly enjoy. As the Mitsu Internet Sales manager said there are, without a question, some people in our profession that have questionable practices and background though you cannot reference that to the entire profession as a whole. It's not appreciated. Thank you.
You may be a honest good salesman, the problem is we have all come across the typical salesman, who is trying to sell a car, not to make friends. I just love pulling up to car lot only to have 3-10 guys or gals just waiting to jump all over you. I have been escorted by a walking salesman to a parking spot. Horrible exprierence for buyers.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by UpstateEVOVIII
Calling salesmen scum and auto dealerships stealerships is quite offensive if you were wondering. Being as I'm a Sales & Leasing Consultant such talk rather offends me as I previously stated. You may have had poor experiences but I once again ask you to kindly take into consideration those of us who actually care about the cars and are here to help people try to have positive purchase experiences. I could be doing something else, I earned my MBA in Clinical Psychology from the U of Albany here in NY but I choose to work in the sales field because I ENJOY what I do. I care about the product and like nothing more than to see someone have a good buying experience and get into a car they truly enjoy. As the Mitsu Internet Sales manager said there are, without a question, some people in our profession that have questionable practices and background though you cannot reference that to the entire profession as a whole. It's not appreciated. Thank you.
Then you sir are in the minority.

Take a guess how many local and even interstate dealerships and salespeople I dealt with and dismissed before I settled on one that provided a competitive price, demonstrated a trustworthy composure and proper customer service.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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I bought my GG 06 MR SE at Don Herring in Texas. MSRP was something like $37470(?) and I bought it out the door for $33446. That was a month ago. I live in Tennessee and no one here could get close to that price.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Ya I just went to my local dealership the other day shopping for 06 MR'S and they are selling them right now at $100 over invoice whice isnt too bad...I think after all the taxes and fees added in the out of door price for a MR depending on the extra options included is about $38,100-$38,600 but i also think dealers sell cars here at a higher price then most anyway
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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Then you sir are in the minority.

Take a guess how many local and even interstate dealerships and salespeople I dealt with and dismissed before I settled on one that provided a competitive price, demonstrated a trustworthy composure and proper customer service.
True enough. MOST of them are pond scum, that's why it's so great to find a dealer who is customer-oriented. By that I mean bottom - line price not a lot of feel-good rhetoric and a free cuppa coffee, lol, along with a price that doesn't include the vaseline.

IF a dealership is bona fide, they don't need to come on here barking about it - their good prices will do their talking. It's about the bottom line. No one likes to buy something only to find they could have gotten it MUCH cheaper elsewhere. I'm sure the high volume pricing that S. Coast and others gets makes the lower volume dealers very mad, but - tough. If Mitsu of America allows it, then customers should take advantage of the volume pricing it brings.
I also really appreciated the NO-BS approach they took, no add-ons, no trying to sell after-market undercoating, etc. Most dealerships have an entire gauntlet the buyer has to run just to complete the sale, most of which just add extra profit to the dealer's pockets. And let's not even go into dealer-sponsored financing...
Yep, pond scum describes most of them quite well.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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Anyone that says not to shop around doesnt know their *** from their elbow. You should ALWAYS shop around (unless money is of no consequence to you).

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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by UpstateEVOVIII
how about trying the honest approach with your salesman. Let them know you're ready to buy a car, and intend on purchasing from them so long as they're willing to realize that you won't settle for anything less than paying invoice for the vehicle knowing that you're familiar with the market. If you have to show them a reference point, don't be afraid to show them links online to dealers that advertise.
Great advice. That is exactly what I did: I paid the South Coast price plus $500 and saved myself a ten-hour drive (basically, an entire week-end), plus I got to pick a color that South Coast did not have in stock at the time.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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Every car salesman I met has been a real scum bag and I refuse to deal with them face-to-face due to me probably wanting to exercising some muscle while pounding their faces. Enough with that I have had the best luck shopping them to death online. Those that take the time to respond to via email will be lucky to receive a call from me if they sent a reasonable offer. Once I get the joke of a sales person on the phone, I tell him to fetch his sales manager and then I hammer out a price on the phone. They might not want to quote you a price by saying you might not be credit worthy. Don't fall for that BS because that's where they start jerking you. Once you squeze a figure out of those scum bags you can check out edmunds.com or post on the forums to see what others have payed. If the price works out for you that is the only time I would go down to the dealer.

I did this exact thing and they still tried to add some BS junk fees that were not on the orginal quote. I got up and walked out of the Finance Managers office and the sales manager comes running up to me telling me that I can't leave. The sales manager was this huge fat sleezy looking guy and he grabbed me by the arm trying to ask me to say. LOL, lets just say he wound up on the gound in his own showroom (I still can't believe that guy grabbing me by the f'n arm???). I immediately went to dealer accross town and explained what had happened and showed them the original quote. They were very polite, professional, and curteous. I bought the same day.

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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 41ants
Every car salesman I met has been a real scum bag and I refuse to deal with them face-to-face due to me probably wanting to exercising some muscle while pounding their faces. Enough with that I have had the best luck shopping them to death online. Those that take the time to respond to via email will be lucky to receive a call from me if they sent a reasonable offer. Once I get the joke of a sales person on the phone, I tell him to fetch his sales manager and then I hammer out a price on the phone. They might not want to quote you a price by saying you might not be credit worthy. Don't fall for that BS because that's where they start jerking you. Once you squeze a figure out of those scum bags you can check out edmunds.com or post on the forums to see what others have payed. If the price works out for you that is the only time I would go down to the dealer.

I did this exact thing and they still tried to add some BS junk fees that were not on the orginal quote. I got up and walked out of the Finance Managers office and the sales manager comes running up to me telling me that I can't leave. The sales manager was this huge fat sleezy looking guy and he grabbed me by the arm trying to ask me to say. LOL, lets just say he wound up on the gound in his own showroom (I still can't believe that guy grabbing me by the f'n arm???). I immediately went to dealer accross town and explained what had happened and showed them the original quote. They were very polite, professional, and curteous. I bought the same day.
Once again, treat others as you'd like to be treated. You shouldn't belittle a salesman by thinking he can't give you the same deal the sales manager can. The numbers (believe it or not) all come from the SAME PLACE. The salesman (in most cases) is not the negotiator, he is there to find out what you want and what you want to pay. Then it's his/her job to approach their sales manager and relay your request to them. Again, it all goes back to you the customer. If you want a good experience, go in with good expectations. Don't go in barking demands and saying here's the price take it or leave it. You have to work with the salesperson, again as I said honesty is the key. MOST dealers won't be able to match an Evo's price like SouthCoast or other very high volume dealers. What they SHOULD be able to offer you is a price that is somewhat reasonable in comparison (you have to figure in shipping from a long distance dealer) and keeping your business local where you're going to (in theory) get your vehicle serviced. I understand everyone wants to save money, but as so many people on here say you should support local business (or at least try to). The experience is usually what you make of it. Maybe things are completely different in stores that aren't hi-line but I know most of the ones I've visited try to be quite helpful unless the customer puts the sales person in a position where they can no longer do so. That's it for now. And if anyone ever wants to trade in their Evo for a Porsche/Audi/VW come see me and see what I'm talking about regarding a GOOD automobile purchasing experience. I can't keep harping on this as most don't seem to even try to understand the point of view of the person on the other side of the process. The person not helping you=the person not getting paid=bad for everyone involved.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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When I bought mine in August I got it for $2750 under invoice right at $27k out the door . But I get a discount through my work place because we carry alot of Mitsu parts . I work for CSX railroad as a locomotive engineer .
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by spyderx
bought mine for $2k under invoice. do shop and shop and shop....
Can you shoot me an PM or email and let me know what your final price was (only if you dont want to post the price here)? Im local and am looking at getting an 06 SE also...
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