Notices
Evo General Discuss any generalized technical Evo related topics that may not fit into the other forums. Please do not post tech and rumor threads here.
Sponsored by: RavSpec - JDM Wheels Central

Leak down test???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 28, 2006 | 02:01 PM
  #1  
drewblueeye's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 352
Likes: 1
From: Sioux CIty, IA
Leak down test???

Does anyone have a write up or know where a write up may be on how to preform a leak down test on an 2005 Evolution 8? have a Mac leak down tester and an air compressor, just need to know if there is a write up somewhere.
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2006 | 02:59 PM
  #2  
Turd Squirter's Avatar
Account Disabled
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 773
Likes: 0
From: Livermore, CA
Originally Posted by drewblueeye
Does anyone have a write up or know where a write up may be on how to preform a leak down test on an 2005 Evolution 8? have a Mac leak down tester and an air compressor, just need to know if there is a write up somewhere.
Bump for Drew. Let's give the man some help if you have a leak-down test how-to!
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2006 | 04:32 PM
  #3  
althemean's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,545
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix
wouldnt it be the same as any other car? I have not done one to the evo so I cant say. But normally dont you bump the pressure up to 100psi and then after a set time (one min) see what the pressure drop is? Thats what your leak down tester has the two gauges for right? Oh..and some way to keep the cylinder from spinning backwards such as a breaker bar on the crank.

Or am I totally off?
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2006 | 04:34 PM
  #4  
Turd Squirter's Avatar
Account Disabled
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 773
Likes: 0
From: Livermore, CA
Originally Posted by althemean
wouldnt it be the same as any other car? I have not done one to the evo so I cant say. But normally dont you bump the pressure up to 100psi and then after a set time (one min) see what the pressure drop is? Thats what your leak down tester has the two gauges for right? Oh..and some way to keep the cylinder from spinning backwards such as a breaker bar on the crank.

Or am I totally off?
Isn't that a compression check?
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2006 | 04:36 PM
  #5  
althemean's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,545
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix
no. a compression check you crank the motor. a leak down you are measuring the pressure lost over a period of time. 100psi, after one min you have 90psi left...your leak down rate is 10%
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2006 | 04:36 PM
  #6  
IEXCELR8's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,034
Likes: 0
From: NJ
here you go

http://www.type2.com/library/engineg/leaktst.htm

And an explaination;

a compression test checks for how well each cylinder is sealing when the engine is rotated. All of the cylinders should be close to each other in the amount of compression that they generate during the test....this shows that all of the cyllinders are sealing properly. A lower number in one or more of the cylinders means that something in that cylinder is not sealing properly....allowing air to escape.

Usually, after a compression test that has lower numbers, you first squirt a bit of oil into the cylinder to wet the rings and perform the test again. If the compression numbers go up, it's due to the rings not sealing properly. The oil added helps them to seal better causing the numbers to go up. If there is no change with the oil then something else is causing the leak. This is where the leakdown test comes into play...identification of the leak.
Leakdown is putting the cylinder at TDC (where all valves should be closed) and pressurizing the cylinder. You then read how much of the pressurized air is leaking out of the cylinder. If the leak is excessive, usually you can listen to different parts of the car for the sound of escaping air to identify the source of the leak. If you hear it from the exhaust, one of the exhaust valves is the cuplrit. If you hear it from the induction system, one of the intake valves is the problem. If you see bubbles in the coolant or hear it bubbling in the cooling system you got a headgasket problem, etc...

Last edited by IEXCELR8; Dec 28, 2006 at 04:48 PM. Reason: added info
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2006 | 04:41 PM
  #7  
Turd Squirter's Avatar
Account Disabled
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 773
Likes: 0
From: Livermore, CA
Originally Posted by althemean
no. a compression check you crank the motor. a leak down you are measuring the pressure lost over a period of time. 100psi, after one min you have 90psi left...your leak down rate is 10%
Ah thanks. I should know better. I stood and watched the guys at Speed Element do a leak-down on my '05.

Last edited by Turd Squirter; Dec 28, 2006 at 04:50 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2006 | 09:55 PM
  #8  
drewblueeye's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 352
Likes: 1
From: Sioux CIty, IA
Ok, thanks for the link. what i am looking for is basically how much psi i should pressurize the cylinder too. those instructions say that you should have an air compressor that can go to 90psi, so is that saying pressurize the cylinder to 90 psi? I have done various leak down tests before but never on an Evo or anything turbo or supercharged, and that is why i was wondering if there was a different proceedure or if it needed to be pressurize to a different amount. would HATE to be wrong
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2006 | 09:57 PM
  #9  
drewblueeye's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 352
Likes: 1
From: Sioux CIty, IA
also i have already done a compression test to my Evo, that is a piece of cake. I got 180psi on 3 of the cylinders and 186psi on the last one.
Reply
Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:19 AM
  #10  
althemean's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,545
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix
The pressure is not really a big deal. 90 psi is okay. Your compression check goes to 180 so dont worry about overpressurizing the cylinder. the reason I suggest 100 is that it is easier to figure out a percentage of loss. Usually there is an acceptable amount (just like the compression check--below 150 or differences between cylinders as an example) I would say I think over 15% is a major problem with a leak down. Something is going to escape somewhere, most likely the rings. You dont want a major leak in the head gasket (bubbles in coolant) or air in the exhaust/intake.
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 07:15 AM
  #11  
ihatepotholes's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 212
Likes: 0
From: Dirty Jersey
Originally Posted by althemean
The pressure is not really a big deal. 90 psi is okay. Your compression check goes to 180 so dont worry about overpressurizing the cylinder. the reason I suggest 100 is that it is easier to figure out a percentage of loss. Usually there is an acceptable amount (just like the compression check--below 150 or differences between cylinders as an example) I would say I think over 15% is a major problem with a leak down. Something is going to escape somewhere, most likely the rings. You dont want a major leak in the head gasket (bubbles in coolant) or air in the exhaust/intake.
mitsubishi allows results of 18-20% for a leak down test.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
iKENwin
Evo X Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
4
Nov 30, 2015 06:15 AM
Lancer_Evo_8
ECU Flash
15
Jun 20, 2015 06:39 AM
Sacevo9mr
Evo How Tos / Installations
5
Feb 3, 2011 06:39 AM
newcomer81
Evo X Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
8
Apr 1, 2010 07:35 AM
partyboy1122
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
13
Jul 28, 2009 02:11 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:39 AM.