Damn
Thats F Up

 

Hello fellows, if you look at my original ad, you will see that I never posted LICP for sale! As a matter of fact, when I bought this kit brand new, I did not receive any LICP. I told him multiple times that I had never used the kit with the stock fmic or stock licp. This kit will bolt on to a stock evo. My mechanics installed this kit on my evo with absolutely no problems at all. Per the ATP website,

http://www.atpturbo.com/root/releases/release052704.htm

"The GT3071R - A brand new "450 HP" ball bearing turbo introduced by the Garrett engineers partly to solve our EVO8 dilemna. Wham! It was right at home! The unit complimented the EVO8 engine well and performed to expectations. Boost was seen 700 - 1000 rpm earlier than the GT3037S and only 200-300 later than stock. With some tuning and larger injectors, we managed 375 WHP on modest boost: achieving our goal of a setup that makes 450 crank HP, spools close to stock and does not require swapping out everything under the sun, ie. FMIC, cams, headwork, etc. To get the power, all you you need is a nice free-flowing 3" exhaust as we have installed on our test car".

The next thing you guys will be saying is that I should have given him a set of cams since I said it was a "complete" kit!!! I told him that I had a custom fmic with licp. I even sent him an email with pictures of the stock fmic with stock licp. As soon as I can figure out how to post my emails here, I'll do so. We exchanged multiple emails and phone calls till he made payment. I met him on Wednesday 01/17/07 at around 2:15 pm. I told him I was running late due to the icy roads here in the Austin area.

Epidemic in your post you said, "He showed me the kit really fast and then I headed back to my town". Epidemic, I had been holed up in my house for 2 days solid because of the ice storm, prior to delivering your package to you. As a matter of fact, I was off work that day when I delivered your package. Epidemic, if I was in such a hurry, how come I took the time to take out the merchandise from a sealed box, unwrap the plastic and lay it on the bed of my truck so that you could inspect it??? Huh??? Don't you remember checking the turbo to see if there was any "shaft" play? Let me guess, you now have Amnesia, you LIAR!!!
I gave him his change of $6.25. This was the change that I had promised to give back to him when he picked up the goods, since he had overpayed when he sent me payment via paypal. I even helped him load-up his truck (a Gray / Silver Toyota Tundra). While I was putting the stock fmic and stock LICP on the truck bed, his exact comments were, "Put the stock LICP in the bed of the truck, the rest of the other items will go inside the truck."

About 15 minutes after he left, he called and told me he was missing a piece of the downpipe. I told him I was going to call him back that I had to call my mechanic in Houston. I called him about 45 minutes later, and confirmed that the other piece of the down pipe was in Houston. Apparently, my mechanic had forgotten to include it with the items. I apologized for the omission. We both agreed that he would pick it up in Houston, when he went down for the tuning session at Engine Logics. I told him, "please let me know when you're on your way to Houston so that I can tell my mechanic to be expecting you." I specifically told him that my mechanic was open till 6 pm on Friday, but closed over the weekend. He said that was fine. Mind you, I told him this Wednesday evening (01/17/07).

I did not check my emails or messages again till Thursday 01/18/07. I got multiple calls and messages from him saying he was missing the LICP and that oil lines (?) were not fitting. I again told him that the LICP was never part of the package. I also told him this kit worked fine on my evo that I did not have any installation issues. Regarding the downpipe, I told him that when he picked it up, I was willing to give him $50.00 towards the labor for installation at Meineke, since I had forgotten to include it in the package. He said no that he wanted to return the kit, and that he wanted his money back. I said, heck no and told him that he had already taken delivery of the goods. He then said he was going to file a complaint with Paypal which he did. I later on got an email from Paypal about his complaint.

Epidemic, through out this process, I have been open and upright with you. I have not deceived you and I have answered your questions. I have sold items on this evo forum before and never had any issues at all. I just want to let you know that I'm not running a Day Care Center over here!!! Be honest with yourself. You know I did not wrong you. My only fault was forgetting the other piece of the downpipe, and I offered to make amends or correct the problem. I specifically told you that what was listed is what I am selling. You inspected the kit before you took delivery. Did I put a gun to your head and make you take the kit? As far as the $50.00 credit I was going to give you for the installation (labor) at Meineke, you can forget it buddy!! I don't like dealing with liars.

As I told you before, I'm not taking any more phone calls from you. Everything is going to be by email from now on - I have to track and document our correspondence since you're liar. If you want your downpipe, send me an email and let me know when you want to pick it up in Houston, so that I can inform the shop. If you want me to mail it to you, give me your address.

Fellows, I have posted attachments that includes emails and correspondence between myself and Epidemic. Please read through it, and you will see why this guy just makes me livid!!!

 

Here are copies of the correspondence between myself and Epidemic. I had to compress the files. Please take your time and ready through the emails. It is wordy, and I apologize.

 

It is his own fault if he inspected the items in person and still took them. You cannot blame nothing on the seller because you had the opportunity to refuse the goods and you took them. Maybe if this was a all email transaction, but you actually went in person to take delivery of the goods.

 

i also agree
the buyer just seems kind of car incompetent
there is no scam here and the buyer did not get burned at all and if he did its only by his own incompetents

 

i am willing to buy that other half of that downpipe from batmann.

let me know

 

Just give him a refund.

 

Hello Evomiz. Since Epidemic paid for the kit, it belongs to him so you would have to ask him. That is between you and him. The only obligation I have to him is to give him his downpipe.

 

Nothing shaddy here just an honest mistake, which Batmann obviously seems to be going the extra mile to make it right. With oil lines not fitting that could be due to installation error, which pobably leads to frustration. This frustration is then vented towards Batmann and on this board. The buyer is suffering from a good ole case of buyers remorse. Get the pipe from him and get your kit installed by a pro: Then have a coke and a smile and STFU and post your dyno results!

 

The lines did not fit. The fittings his installer modified to work on his car were not included with the kit, but the ones from the turbo were. (what it sounds and looks like to me) It's a bad situation for both parties, and hopefully it gets somewhat resolved.

 

Thanks for posting batmann! I do need that downpipe because I paid for it you can have it mailed to my house ill pm you my address. Although I still do have a problem with licp and oil lines this is a start I guess Im going to post pics soon of the lines with a better cam and show that I cant use these coolant and oil lines.

 

Why is it always Texas? I see two problems here: 1.There are always problems when trying to install used parts, especially something this complicated. 2.A guy buying used parts that doesn't know how to work on cars. (3. They are both from Texas. )

I sincerely hope you guys get it all worked out and you continue to enjoy your Evo's.

 

Don't you know...........that everything in Texas is BIGGER, so the DRAMA has to be BIGGER.


If I was you Epidemic, I would just return that kit back and get yourself a REFUND.

 

Thats what I want but it doesnt seem like batmann! wants to do that for me. I dont see what the big deal on a refund is.

 

Have you altered or damaged anything on the kit? If not, he should give you a REFUND. Worst case scenario maybe he keeps like $50-$100 for his time.