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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 09:43 PM
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How to drive

i expect no beef from anyone on this but i am a 17 yr old boy that drives evo 8. i am in cali and i wanna learn how to drive this car to it's full potential does anyone know where i might be able to learn how to do this. when i say drive it to it's full potential i seriously mean it. i am a ****ty drive right now
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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You're a dork cause you expect no beef from anyone for posting that ;D

If you pay me $300 a lesson we'll head down to Pomona on the weekends and I'll teach you how to launch right and handle your car well. If that goes well, we'll hit up the track for some lessons in drift.
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 09:52 PM
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well i knew i was gonna get some beef for it but i hoped for as little as possible. well if u are seriously willing to do it i am road tripping down to riverside for a week and i might take u up on this cause i could really use some lessons. that is if u are good though lol. but seriously i wouldnt mind some lessons but 300 dollars!!!! that much???
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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Depending where you are in CA tracks like Lunga Seca would having driving classes you can take to learn things like car control.

Also Take a look into the SCCA (Sports Car Club of America) they would hold Solo events in your area where you can go and test your own car and learn what it will do.
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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Man, don't give the guy ****. I admire the fact that he wants to drive the car properly ....I think that sources such as skip barber or a FREE lesson from a fellow "mature" driver from this board nearby should help him.

Big ups to aZnLaNcEr for wanting to better his skills

oh yea there is this thing called "rev it up" from Mazda...they let you drive a mazda 6 but you will learn basic techniques there too....good luck playa!
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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auto-x is a good way to learn to drive your car without a great deal of expense, hastle, or risk of accident.
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 09:58 PM
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well i am looking for more of a one on one instructor that will teach me how to do everything ranging from simple stick shift to car control to mad awd drifting. that would be best since i am the type of learner that requires all this. i am a 17 yr old dumbass what do u expect
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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i dont have much money but i guess i am willing to pay a little cause i rather pay for lesson rather than bust a gasket from ****ty driving. am i not right
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 10:07 PM
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I agree. Find the SCCA. Watch an autox...try and autox. The go from there. They'll usually have drivers schools at all levels.

Keep in mind with most sanctioning bodies like SCCA after you progress beyond what they call Solo II (Autox) there are safety regulations for your car.

Solo II is an autox which is basically a timed parking lot race through pylons wearing a helmet and seatbelt...from there you can go to Solo I which are also timed events but they are done at a track or hillclimb. Because the speeds are much higher the requirements are much higher...approved helmet and nomex suit/gloves, roll cage or roll bar...)

If you still want more then you can start in their regional road racing series. You have to complete a drivers school successfully but after that you can race regionally. The safety requirements are not much beyond the Solo I requirements.

Most people love Solo I (until they see what it does to their tires). Some people go further but remember with each jump your car gets better for racing and worse for the street.

Go as far as you can afford or want to go and keep having fun.

You will learn excellent car control in Solo I with or without help. There are schools and even a rally series.

Depending on what you ultimately want to do, autox, hills, tracks, drags will determine what group to seek out. SCCA is cheap, affordable and typically well organized.

I will tell you after racing as long as I have there is no shortcut. It takes miles and miles of practice and there's always room to learn more.

There are semi-sanctioned owner's clubs or private track time events also that you may enjoy...just watch your car at some of these non-sanctioned events. People get in way over their heads way too early and usually their car or your car ends up paying for it.

What do you ultimately want to do? Be a better driver or race cars?
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 10:50 PM
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watch the rally in Speed .. you can get a lot of idea of how to get all the potential.. serious that may help
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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well personally i feel that watching is nothing compared to the first hand teachings of a good driver next to me. i mean watching a show will not teach me how to shift correctly or go into a drift. if it was this easy then why not just go watch a lot of nascar/jgtc/2fast2furious/ or even initial d lol
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by aZnLaNcEr
well personally i feel that watching is nothing compared to the first hand teachings of a good driver next to me. i mean watching a show will not teach me how to shift correctly or go into a drift. if it was this easy then why not just go watch a lot of nascar/jgtc/2fast2furious/ or even initial d lol

Maybe you should try indoor kart racing as well. Plenty of chances to drive 100% without worrying too much about crashing (well, that's because you will definitely crash) and getting seriously hurt. If you are in the bay area, there is Speedring in Sunnyvale and Lemans in Fremont. Lemans is better because their karts are newer and more powerful.
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 12:13 AM
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diesel - indoor cart racing is a great idea. shiet, i forgot how much fun and how much i learned when i did that few years back. really lets you feel what its like to be on the edge and lose control / regain control without fear of gaurd rails and ditches and walls and other cars. also makes you realize the focus you need to have when driving spirited, makes you realize u need to be sitting str8 up with both hands on the wheel looking down the road at whats coming ahead, not just what is directly in front of you.

- also what helps - take a ride in a track prepped car / sports car driven by a experience driver/professional. it will make you realize that when you are in-experienced and think that you may be at 9/10's you are really at like 6/10's and with the proper skills there is so much more to get out of the car. this guy took me for a ride in his auto-x/ road race NSX and i had never been stuck to a door that hard before.

practice shifting!!! thats the first place you mess up when driving fast because you mess up downshifting and matching revs and heal/toing. and when you mess up shifting in the middle of driving it throws you off completely. i used to go to like 60-70mph in my integra and just mash on the brakes and drop 3-2-1 gears over and over on this empty street just getting accustomed to the feeling so that when you start driving fast on streets your not familiar with you can fully concentrate on the road and not think about gears and shifting.

practice braking without downshifting and heal/toeing - just to get used to the minimum distances that the evo, or any car can decelerate in. dont downshift or anything while your doing it so u can concentrate on the distances

short of professional on track time, get with a friend that knows how to drive well and have them show u shifting techniques and cornering techniques. from there you can just practice on empty/ vacant roads (low speeds and definitely with no surrounding obstaclles) you be suprised at the concentration it takes to just maintain the proper line and braking and acclerating at the right times even if only going at 5/10's. after you get better, you can add up the skills (break at the correct time/distance while downshifting correctly and handling the car through the corner clipping the apex and applying throttle and all that good stufff) and start having fun.
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 12:30 AM
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lol if only i had friends who could drivve that well. here in the bay area for the most part kids my age can only drive straight which sucks. i feel that dragging is pointless cause where is the fun in going straight i want to learn track racing. i would practice but police here are a *****.
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 12:40 AM
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you would be amazed at what you can learn on the net alone.. nothing beats first hand experience on the road but knowing and understanding technique is certainly a good chunk of the battle.


http://www.turnfast.com/
http://autospeak.com/terms99.htm#Racing%20Terms%20A

a couple of handy places to get started.

otherwise.. racing school - auto x and other track time can only help
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