Rod Knock??
sitting still, set parking brake, raise engine rpm until you hear what you think is the knock and keep at this rpm, push in clutch, put in first gear, let out clutch slowly until it starts to grab. If knock goes away when clutch starts to grab then you have a rod bearing knock.
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sitting still, set parking brake, raise engine rpm until you hear what you think is the knock and keep at this rpm, push in clutch, put in first gear, let out clutch slowly until it starts to grab. If knock goes away when clutch starts to grab then you have a rod bearing knock.
The best way to check for "Rod Knock" is to get it in third gear, up to 4000-4500 and let off the throttle to put load on the bearings. If your going to hear it, this will be the time. Also, send a sample in for analysis, you can find a couple of places that do it for $20, just take a sample on your next oil change. Do a search for "oil analysis" there's a link in some of the threads on here.
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sitting still, set parking brake, raise engine rpm until you hear what you think is the knock and keep at this rpm, push in clutch, put in first gear, let out clutch slowly until it starts to grab. If knock goes away when clutch starts to grab then you have a rod bearing knock.
One way to check for rod knock---if you have an oil pressure gauge--I dont know the status of your gauges...but it you have a bad bearing-- the oil pressure will be lower at all but maybe high readings (high rpms) It will be down by 10 psi or there abouts over what would be your std readings. (especially at idle).Or you can drive it and it will get louder and louder until if fails--it wont take long.
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One way to check for rod knock---if you have an oil pressure gauge--I dont know the status of your gauges...but it you have a bad bearing-- the oil pressure will be lower at all but maybe high readings (high rpms) It will be down by 10 psi or there abouts over what would be your std readings. (especially at idle).Or you can drive it and it will get louder and louder until if fails--it wont take long.
by the way, do you have cams? maybe you have a collapsed lifter? are you still under warranty?
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I do not have cams, the only thing the car has is a TBE. How would i know if i have a collapsed lifter?
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Not necessarily. You might be able to drive it, but you would definately feel the power loss with the rod knock. Lifter noise is similar to clock ticking
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The absolutely best way to detect rod knock IS:
drop your oil pan.
By doing this you actually be able to measure the connecting rod end play with a feeler gauge. If its out of spec, replace or rebuild your engine. Easy as pie
drop your oil pan.
By doing this you actually be able to measure the connecting rod end play with a feeler gauge. If its out of spec, replace or rebuild your engine. Easy as pie
rod knock is not from excessive side play in the connecting rods- which you could measure with a feeler gauge with the oil pan off. It is from too much clearance between the bearing and the crank pin- which you don't measure with a feeler gauge. Obviously pulling the oil pan and pulling the rod caps will answer the question. But, why go thru all that trouble if he has no idea what rod knock sounds like? The test I posted was told to me by an old mechanic and has been 100% reliable for me in the past- I've used this on several cars with spun bearings (not all mine) and every time it fails the test the engine has at least one trashed rod bearing.
if you have one bad bearing, oil pressure can still be ok.
If you passed the diagnosis test then I'd have someone mechanically experienced listen. It's probably just valvetrain noise. Oh, and yes, parking brake set the entire time for the test. You are trying to almost stall the car at which point the knock will disappear if it's a bad rod bearing
if you have one bad bearing, oil pressure can still be ok.
If you passed the diagnosis test then I'd have someone mechanically experienced listen. It's probably just valvetrain noise. Oh, and yes, parking brake set the entire time for the test. You are trying to almost stall the car at which point the knock will disappear if it's a bad rod bearing
Last edited by Steve_P; May 11, 2007 at 09:47 AM.




