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The Freak Evo from SAUDI ARABIA (caution LS1 Inside )

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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dafarmer69
well put, people just cant stand anything from the normal.. i wish i was rich, it would have been done already, by me..

who couldnt love 1200 reliable horsepower, and the ability to retain awd.. gee how many cars in that relm, lambo, skyline, sun auto nissan. why is it weird, sun auto put a v12 in a 350z, and made it awd.

the only thing wasted here is dumb comments. people really need to give props for originality. regardless of the car, engine, or its location.
me personly am not an LS1 fann , but i have respect for what my friends did , and i also have respect to your post .
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Cirrusly Evolvd
Yes there is, it's called Forced Induction and Technology.

This is both interesting and sad to see.
ya and this also has a supercharger , so it has both
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 85?
Is it just me or is there a air filter on the end of the piping going into the throttle body? Even in the second post of pics it was in there.
That's the intake and it's leading into the supercharger. You can see a gold colored pulley on the side of it.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:00 AM
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To each his own. i would love to see this set up actually run with four wheel drive make sure to post a video and many pics when car is running.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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thumbs up for the swap. very impressive.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by vortech_g35
Look @ that sexy polished head MmmMMm.
Do you mean the intake? It's a OHV V8 mate...the heads are those things on the side

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And over here the ls7 vette got spanked by a car that has a 2.0 DOHC 180 hp engine ( a little car called lotus )
on all tests.
Er, what are you talking about? The new Z absolutely *****slaps the Elise at the strip or at a road course
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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+1 for a test drive to see what this monster can do.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 10:24 AM
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I think that is AWESOME. I have taken part in quite a few LT1, LT4, LS1 swaps, it is not an easy task even in larger engine bays. Alot of respect for this project. We had a 1997 Blazer AWD with an LS1 in it, beastly. I beleive that they will be able to make the EVO AWD, they certainly seem to have the funds to, and money can buy you just about anything.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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that's crazy
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 72Tornado
Do you mean the intake? It's a OHV V8 mate...the heads are those things on the side



Er, what are you talking about? The new Z absolutely *****slaps the Elise at the strip or at a road course
sup man, i see u have fully transformed to the dark side eh...
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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I'm thinking he is neutral .
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by bmfgsxr
thumbs up for ingenuity without a doubt.. although imo, and evo isnt an evo without the 4g63.
So is the Evo X not going to be an Evo because it has a 4B11T and not a 4G63?

Back on topic...

I think it is a crazy *** swap. I love the original idea. I can only imagine how fast that thing will be when it's done.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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props to you for a crazy swap. I would love to see this car run, i think it will be a real beast!!!
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. SS
sup man, i see u have fully transformed to the dark side eh...
Heh heh, yeah I've been around here a little while. There's definitely a lot of valuable information and discussion here...unfortunately, there's also several rather less valuable posts that I've run across
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Vigo
What about put that same variable geometry turbine technology and combine that with a higher displacement engine? Again the bigger engine will make more power.

With all things held equal, more displacement will always make more power. Is that really too hard to understand?

In the end the smaller engine is always playing catch up.
A bigger turbo will make more power. Is that so hard to understand? A big turbo with variable geometry will have linear spoolup. Is that so hard to understand? In theory, it doesn't matter what displacement you have. A smaller turbo engine can always be modified to produce similar results to the larger naturally aspirated displacement engine. From what I gathered, I thought we were comparing small displacement turbo engines to naturally aspirated large displacement engines. Large displacement turbo engines do indeed provide superior performance, however in the real world they suffer from excessive traction problems and massive reliability problems (can you say shattered drivetrain?). In the end, its all about what the target horsepower level you want, and what kind of power/torque curve you want. If your target is 2000 HP, sure then yes I would choose a variable turbine turbo V8. Wait a second, who the hell needs 2000 hp? Maybe an alcohol powered rail car dragster. When your target horsepower level becomes a little more realistic, say around 1000 HP, there becomes less and less need for a large displacement engine to do the job. A large displacement engine should also be avoided for these reasons:

1.) Cost
2.) Complexity
3.) Center of gravity (V8's usually have a much higher center of gravity than inline four cylinders)

For low power (realistic) levels, a small displacement engine can easily be made to to perform well with modern forced induction technology while also keeping the cost, complexity, and center of gravity DOWN. A high tech, lightweight, small displacement engine to me has a distinct advantage on a race track versus their higher displacement V-configuration counter parts. Displacement IS still an advantage (since it will always allow better power curve and a higher theoretical power output), but it definitely does not come without its disadvantages.

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