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bluebyu eclipse
I was just hanging out in the house 2 weeks ago and i get this random knock on my door,from a kid i never met before he, was pretty cool and asked me for my paint code and the name of the color of my car. any way two weeks late he came back:
(his system)
the paint job looks a little crappy though...
he want to buy my stock turbo does anybody know if it will fit?
thanks..
(his system)
the paint job looks a little crappy though...
he want to buy my stock turbo does anybody know if it will fit?
thanks..
Last edited by bluebyu36; Jul 19, 2007 at 07:00 PM.
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Uh-Oh. Now you've done it... you've got me started... its time for a lesson in Mitsubishi/4g63 history! 
lol
Mitsubishi Evolutions I through III have the same basic powertrain as DSMs (90-99 Eclipse, Talon, Laser, & GVR4) and consequently many parts are compatible between these two platforms. Of special note is the MHI EVO3 16g turbo that came factory on the Evolution III. This turbo is a very popular upgrade among DSM tuners as it is a cheap and powerful upgrade from the stock DSM turbos (the 14b and T25 respectively).
On the other hand, the powertain on EVOs IV-IX is substantially different from that of the DSM. Undoubtably the biggest difference lies in the reinovation of the legendary 4g63t motor. On DSMs and EVOs I-III, the 4g63 is transversely mounted with its timing components (cam gears, timing belt, etc.) on the right side of the motor and with the transmission situated on the left. However with its redesign in 1996, the powertrain layout was flipped or "mirrored" if you will. While still retaining its transverse mount position, the 4g63 was situated with its timing components on the left and the tranny on the right. In addition to the mirror image, the compression ratio was slightly lowered from 9:1 to 8.8:1. To compensate for the loss of compression, Mitsubishi Engineers introduced a new twin-scroll 16g turbo with the release of the Evolution IV that boosted the power output to 280bhp at 6500RPM.
The new twin-scroll turbo embraced the 4g63's revised layout in that it now bolted up to the exhaust manifold on the right side with its compressor outlet protruding from there. This again is in complete contrast to the DSM/EVO I-III setup in which the turbo was mounted on the left side of the manifold with its compressor outlet extending from the formentioned side.
Bottom line... no, it won't fit. The 16g turbo from your EVO is designed to have its compressor outlet and intake piping facing the right side of the engine bay. His car is structured so that the turbo and intake plumbing face the left side. To top it all off, the the turbo flange on the EVO VIII/IX manifold is completely different from that of DSMs. The bolts won't line up so you won't even be able to attach the turbo without substantial modification.
Pictures for reference:
The ever popular MHI EVO3 16g turbo...
DSM/EVO I-III layout on the left and EVO IV-IX layout on the right...
lolMitsubishi Evolutions I through III have the same basic powertrain as DSMs (90-99 Eclipse, Talon, Laser, & GVR4) and consequently many parts are compatible between these two platforms. Of special note is the MHI EVO3 16g turbo that came factory on the Evolution III. This turbo is a very popular upgrade among DSM tuners as it is a cheap and powerful upgrade from the stock DSM turbos (the 14b and T25 respectively).
On the other hand, the powertain on EVOs IV-IX is substantially different from that of the DSM. Undoubtably the biggest difference lies in the reinovation of the legendary 4g63t motor. On DSMs and EVOs I-III, the 4g63 is transversely mounted with its timing components (cam gears, timing belt, etc.) on the right side of the motor and with the transmission situated on the left. However with its redesign in 1996, the powertrain layout was flipped or "mirrored" if you will. While still retaining its transverse mount position, the 4g63 was situated with its timing components on the left and the tranny on the right. In addition to the mirror image, the compression ratio was slightly lowered from 9:1 to 8.8:1. To compensate for the loss of compression, Mitsubishi Engineers introduced a new twin-scroll 16g turbo with the release of the Evolution IV that boosted the power output to 280bhp at 6500RPM.
The new twin-scroll turbo embraced the 4g63's revised layout in that it now bolted up to the exhaust manifold on the right side with its compressor outlet protruding from there. This again is in complete contrast to the DSM/EVO I-III setup in which the turbo was mounted on the left side of the manifold with its compressor outlet extending from the formentioned side.
Bottom line... no, it won't fit. The 16g turbo from your EVO is designed to have its compressor outlet and intake piping facing the right side of the engine bay. His car is structured so that the turbo and intake plumbing face the left side. To top it all off, the the turbo flange on the EVO VIII/IX manifold is completely different from that of DSMs. The bolts won't line up so you won't even be able to attach the turbo without substantial modification.
Pictures for reference:
The ever popular MHI EVO3 16g turbo...
DSM/EVO I-III layout on the left and EVO IV-IX layout on the right...
Last edited by Zmann42087; Jul 19, 2007 at 11:04 PM.
