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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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6 Speed MR vs. 5 Speed RS

I searched on this forum for a bit and came up with nada... So I hope Im not being a dip**** and didnt see it.

I currently own a 2006 WRX STI and Im looking into buying a EvoIX but all they have here in town are 2 2006 MR's with the 6 speed tranny. IMHO 6 speeds sucks for daily driving as well as in the 1/4 mile. Im not too sure of the gear ratio's between the STI's and the Evos 6 speed. My Sti is 100% turd when its going down the track. Says it runs 13.1's stock ran a 13.7 beating it to death with Jesus driving.
Anyways... To my question! Should I hold out to buy the 5 speed or would the MR's 6 spd tranny do me justice in the 1/4 mile. Most of the fastest Evos are all 5spd and Im not trying to totally screw up again and have a complete turd in the 1/4mi with the infamous 6SPD TURD MOBILE... Im finally down on my lease and I need a new Evo SO BAD I CAN TASTE IT!!> Any input would be greatly apprecieted!! Thanks for your help as this is a great forum!!
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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5 speed = good

6 speed = problems
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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Drive them both the 6 speed feels much better for daily driving and you can go through the traps in 5th gear which is not the final drive like the 5 speed. If you trap over 110 your going to have to go into 5th anyways. The RS will be a bit quicker as it is lighter but if this is your DD go with the MR.

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Assuming you shift at 7k

Gear . . . . AWD DSM. . . . . . . EVO VIII. . . . . . . . EVO IX. . . . . . . . EVO MR

1st . . . . . 34.4 (3800) . . . . . 40.0 (4700) . . . . 42.1 (4900) . . . .39.8 (4700)

2nd . . . . . 62.8 (4650) . . . . 60.1 (5150) . . . . 60.1 (5200) . . . .59.6 (5200)

3rd . . . . . 94.8 (5250) . . . . . 83.2 (5150) . . . . 81.1 (5300) . . . .80.8 (5350)

4th . . . . . 126.9 (5600) . . . 113.6 (4900) . . . 106.9 (4850) . . . .105.3 (5500)

5th . . . . . 158.7 (N/A) . . . . 162.7 (N/A) . . . . 153.9 (N/A) . . . . .133.7 (5600)

6th . . . . . N/A (N/A) . . . . . . . . N/A (N/A) . . . . . . N/A (N/A) . . . . .167.1 (N/A)

The MR has a better stock suspension and a nicer interior as well as a few other goodies like the wheels, VG, etc...People like to talk about 6 speed tranny failures but search around and you will see even more 5 speed failures. This is because there are more RS and GSR than MR obviously but no tranny is safe from bad driving and too much power.

You will be fine with the 6 speed shifting wise unless you plan on going over 140. You said you drive like Jesus anyways so an extra shift shouldn't add more than a tenth or two anyways.

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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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Thats what I thought... Thanks a bunch!! Ill just get a 1st gen!! LOL
But honestly there are a bunch of fast MR's out there but synchros and tranny arent exactly cheap. + Mitsu's warranty isnt exactly what you call "USER FRIENDLY"
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6 speed = problems
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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Drive them both the 6 speed feels much better for daily driving and you can go through the traps in 5th gear which is not the final drive like the 5 speed. If you trap over 110 your going to have to go into 5th anyways. The RS will be a bit quicker as it is lighter but if this is your DD go with the MR.

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Gear . . . . AWD DSM. . . . . . . EVO VIII. . . . . . . . EVO IX. . . . . . . . EVO MR

1st . . . . . 34.4 (3800) . . . . . 40.0 (4700) . . . . 42.1 (4900) . . . .39.8 (4700)

2nd . . . . . 62.8 (4650) . . . . 60.1 (5150) . . . . 60.1 (5200) . . . .59.6 (5200)

3rd . . . . . 94.8 (5250) . . . . . 83.2 (5150) . . . . 81.1 (5300) . . . .80.8 (5350)

4th . . . . . 126.9 (5600) . . . 113.6 (4900) . . . 106.9 (4850) . . . .105.3 (5500)

5th . . . . . 158.7 (N/A) . . . . 162.7 (N/A) . . . . 153.9 (N/A) . . . . .133.7 (5600)

6th . . . . . N/A (N/A) . . . . . . . . N/A (N/A) . . . . . . N/A (N/A) . . . . .167.1 (N/A)
Unfortunately I will shooting for 120+ traps. @ what mph does 6th gear need to be shifted? Hell Im almost in 6th @ 99 in the 1/4 in the Sti.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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go with the IX RS. MIVEC FTW!
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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go with the IX RS. MIVEC FTW!
It just sucks I cant find one. I guess Ill just have to wait until the X comes out as people will be trading some in, HOPEFULLY. Nothing in the Ohio area for sale AT ALL@!!!!
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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If you drag race enough you will break your tranny. Mis shifts happen, no one is perfect. Gears strip, syncros grind, etc... It's part of owning the car. If you're just a enthusiast who enjoys making a few 1/4 mile passes your tranny will hold up for some time with proper care. Most 6 speed failures are with 4th gear after extended road racing in the heat.

Anyways the 6 speed close ratio is much better on the street and feels much quicker on the butt dyno. The throws are more precise, etc...You are more likely to be in the powerband and you will continue to be there between shifts. The 5 speed is still a great tranny and is a bit stronger. Don't let the transmission be the deciding factor in your choice.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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You won't have to go into 6th until 133 if you shift at 7k and if you go till 8k its probably near 140. Notice the big drop down from 4 to 5 between the 5 speed and 6 speed.

Remember, you can always go to a 5 speed when you start making serious power. 6 speeds are a bit more expensive.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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I owned two STIs before the Evo.
Stock STIs do run 13.0-13.3, your driving just needs some work.

I can honestly say that launching an Evo at the dragstrip sucks(especially with the stock 5k two-step) compared to an STI.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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To blindy state that 6-speed = Problems is just wrong. The IX 5-speed is better for drag racing. The 6-speed owns the street.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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How can launching an Evo get any easier? The 2 step makes noobs look like champs. I cut a 1.68 my 2nd time ever launching a manual car.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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My 04' Sti went 13.2's all day long but with the new limited slip + new diffs in the 06' is much slower than I could ever imagine with all the drivetrain loss. But with the stock 5K 2 step + TUNE = Gone = 1.60 60 ft's Thanks you guys for the input! I will be converting VERY SOON. I honestly wish I would have bought the Evo to begin with but the Sti was my dream car and I really didnt do any research on the damn Evo. Rally Blue w/ Gold BBS how could I go wrong and 30 yr old mans dream car! But... If I can find a 5 speed that is not totally beat to hell Im gonna grab(ONLY it for a good price.) But I love the feel of a new car as your the only one who has abused it and Ive see enough vidoes on the web to verify [NEVER BUY A CAR WITHOUT CARFAX]
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I owned two STIs before the Evo.
Stock STIs do run 13.0-13.3, your driving just needs some work.

I can honestly say that launching an Evo at the dragstrip sucks(especially with the stock 5k two-step) compared to an STI.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JordanS4
Drive them both the 6 speed feels much better for daily driving and you can go through the traps in 5th gear which is not the final drive like the 5 speed. If you trap over 110 your going to have to go into 5th anyways. The RS will be a bit quicker as it is lighter but if this is your DD go with the MR.

Check this out.

Assuming you shift at 7k

Gear . . . . AWD DSM. . . . . . . EVO VIII. . . . . . . . EVO IX. . . . . . . . EVO MR

1st . . . . . 34.4 (3800) . . . . . 40.0 (4700) . . . . 42.1 (4900) . . . .39.8 (4700)

2nd . . . . . 62.8 (4650) . . . . 60.1 (5150) . . . . 60.1 (5200) . . . .59.6 (5200)

3rd . . . . . 94.8 (5250) . . . . . 83.2 (5150) . . . . 81.1 (5300) . . . .80.8 (5350)

4th . . . . . 126.9 (5600) . . . 113.6 (4900) . . . 106.9 (4850) . . . .105.3 (5500)

5th . . . . . 158.7 (N/A) . . . . 162.7 (N/A) . . . . 153.9 (N/A) . . . . .133.7 (5600)

6th . . . . . N/A (N/A) . . . . . . . . N/A (N/A) . . . . . . N/A (N/A) . . . . .167.1 (N/A)

The MR has a better stock suspension and a nicer interior as well as a few other goodies like the wheels, VG, etc...People like to talk about 6 speed tranny failures but search around and you will see even more 5 speed failures. This is because there are more RS and GSR than MR obviously but no tranny is safe from bad driving and too much power.

You will be fine with the 6 speed shifting wise unless you plan on going over 140. You said you drive like Jesus anyways so an extra shift shouldn't add more than a tenth or two anyways.
What are the number in the ( ) next to the miles per hour? I take it they are RPM, but in what relation?

Thanks for the info
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by High_PSI
To blindy state that 6-speed = Problems is just wrong. The IX 5-speed is better for drag racing. The 6-speed owns the street.
I agree. The stock clutch protects the drivetrain alot. An upgraded clutch and poor driving skill is what kills transmissions IMO.
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