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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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Q: Potential WHP/TRQ #'s

Hey everyone I am looking for some opinions for what whp #'s and trq #'s I can put down on planned future mods. If TTP can chime in I would appreciate it since I plan on bringing it to you guys late Jan early Feb

The car: '06 MR IX

Here are the mods so far.

Forge DV
Forge MBC
TTP Tuned
HKS DP heat wrapped
Invida TP
HKS Ti CF Exhaust
Fujita Intake and UICP
Injen LICP
Exedy Twin HD

I am put down 332whp and 338 trq on a dynojet @ 21psi with the stock clutch that soon went right out the door so I dont know if those #'s (especialy trq) would change since the Exedy upgrade.

I am wondering what kind of power I can get by adding on:

AMS FMIC (are there two versions? race and non race? Or does the race just have the LICP? kinda confused on this.)

Cosi cams

o2 housing (might not do this since I am probably upgrading the turbo as well...
Retune.

Also at what point should I add studs? I have read a billion threads on this and I have mixed information and mixed feelings about this.

Any other opinions about different FMIC's cams etc etc are welcome. I'm not acting like I can buy anything but $ isnt really an issue although I really dont se the point in buying ARC and companies like that unless I was going for show which I am not

Thanks in advance.
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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Do the arp head studs when you do the cams
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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+1, Studs & Cams are a good combo install.

However, the power you make is going to depend on the cams. Lift, duration, etc. as well as your tune....
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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do fmic and o2 etc when/if you go with the big turbo. studs are for high boost only, is that in your future?

Consider a path that has the parts linked ie ams buscher. If you are getting a turbo from a company, probably best with the parts that were designed to go with it.

I'm a fan of doing things right, with the best choice available. So if the more $ fmic gets better results, do it.

also fan of bang for buck. the more steps in your build the more $, tune,extra labor,etc. so cams now with studs and alky? then turbo + supporting mods.

cams ~ 40-50whp, fmic 10-20whp.
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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yes there are 2 AMS style intercoolers.the street core i guess you can call it which i believe comes with licp only and the race FMIC comes with licp and uicp and is only recommended for 600+awhp applications.

i would go cams and studs.the FMIC is a good upgrade but the cams with give you more and give the car the nice idle.b/c the fmic is good for i believe 400-500awhp,i could be wrong though.

also if you want the cams and studs im selling a Greddy Vspec FMIC for cheap. It was on my Evo with 400+awhp on straight pump gas and 500+awhp on higher boost.great condition and good intercooler.PM ME if your interested
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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I say you should be good for 350hp and 350tq...
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by adamhw
do fmic and o2 etc when/if you go with the big turbo. studs are for high boost only, is that in your future?

Consider a path that has the parts linked ie ams buscher. If you are getting a turbo from a company, probably best with the parts that were designed to go with it.

I'm a fan of doing things right, with the best choice available. So if the more $ fmic gets better results, do it.

also fan of bang for buck. the more steps in your build the more $, tune,extra labor,etc. so cams now with studs and alky? then turbo + supporting mods.

cams ~ 40-50whp, fmic 10-20whp.
Yeah I definately am planning on more boost and have been told that I should scrap doing an o2 if I am going with another turbo unless its the Green. I believe in doing things right the forst time and plan on doing alot with AMS parts I dont know about doing Meth though.

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yes there are 2 AMS style intercoolers.the street core i guess you can call it which i believe comes with licp only and the race FMIC comes with licp and uicp and is only recommended for 600+awhp applications.

i would go cams and studs.the FMIC is a good upgrade but the cams with give you more and give the car the nice idle.b/c the fmic is good for i believe 400-500awhp,i could be wrong though.

also if you want the cams and studs im selling a Greddy Vspec FMIC for cheap. It was on my Evo with 400+awhp on straight pump gas and 500+awhp on higher boost.great condition and good intercooler.PM ME if your interested
Can anyone Verify this information? ^^^

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I say you should be good for 350hp and 350tq...
These #'s seem pretty low.... I am already at 332whp and dropping cams a retune and FMIC should put down more I would think.
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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verify what?just go to AMS site and you can see what each intercooler comes with.

the AMS race IC is only recommended for GT35Rs and bigger.if this is what you were trying to "verify" then yes it is true.if its something else be more specific.

the guy above said 40-50 for cams and 10-20 for FMIC...if you get the most out of it i dont see you laying down 390awhp on pump gas and 21-22psi.

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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by GT35REVO8
verify what?just go to AMS site and you can see what each intercooler comes with.

the AMS race IC is only recommended for GT35Rs and bigger.if this is what you were trying to "verify" then yes it is true.if its something else be more specific.

the guy above said 40-50 for cams and 10-20 for FMIC...if you get the most out of it i dont see you laying down 390awhp on pump gas and 21-22psi.
Already checked the site before you posted. I am planning on the 35R. Thanks

The other guy says 350/350. And I am saying that doesnt make sense if I am already putting down 332/338 and I am going to get (lets be conservative and take the low side) 40 for the cams and 10 for the FMIC it would put me at 380ish. So i was saying 350 doesnt make sense.
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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no it doesnt..ive seen 358awhp without cams.mani/o2/ams ic/piping/dp/exhaust/other little things


i think the most ive seen with minimal mods was like 370 or so..not suer tho
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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just by adding 264/272 cams I picked up an extra 33 whp . Definitely makes a difference!!
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by darkstar6069
just by adding 264/272 cams I picked up an extra 33 whp . Definitely makes a difference!!
What other mods do you have?
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 06MRV8Killer
Already checked the site before you posted. I am planning on the 35R. Thanks

The other guy says 350/350. And I am saying that doesnt make sense if I am already putting down 332/338 and I am going to get (lets be conservative and take the low side) 40 for the cams and 10 for the FMIC it would put me at 380ish. So i was saying 350 doesnt make sense.
sorry man but ix's don't respond to cams like the viii's did

you aren't going to achieve 40 PEAK whp

maybe 15

350/350 is actually pretty likely what you'll get

TTP did EVIL_EVO_VIII's (I think that's his name) car he had 360ish/350ish with cosi cams and pretty much everything else you have
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Hmmmm, lots of mixed comments on this. I guess we will just have to see
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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You need a real downpipe. HKS is cosmetic. Its the same size as stock. Basically you have a testpipe, catback with reducer section, MBC and Fujita intake. That is all for performance mods.

DP, O2 housing would be some good options, then cosworth cams (in stock).

Yes we tuned Evil_Evo_VIII to 362/360+ on pumpgas 93 @ USP with these simple mods and AMS FMIC, licp.
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