Just got the call from AMS.....
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“Upgrade the rods and crank for starters? Well first off why would you touch all that and not the pistons,lol? “
Oliver Rods and Knife Edge crank are both upgrades from the base Stroker setup.
In the discussions with AMS these were suggestions. Clearly they “do know much” and are confident that the pistons they include in the stroker setup will suffice.
“Also a 2.3 comes with a new crank. So you gonna have a new crank,rods and stock pistons?LOL”
This is a 2.3 stroker, which means the pistons are oversized from stock considering the displacement has changed. Normally it is not a “New” crank with the stroker short blocks. They resurface the crank from the core you leave them with, when that allows, which in my case did not.
“You obviously dont know much.”
With such limited information you “obviously” were quick to judge. What you should have done was a little research and had your facts straight BEFORE you posted anything on this thread, so that you may appear the slightest bit as knowledgable as you like to think you are.
Hmm lets analyze this a bit.
“Upgrade the rods and crank for starters? Well first off why would you touch all that and not the pistons,lol? “
Oliver Rods and Knife Edge crank are both upgrades from the base Stroker setup.
In the discussions with AMS these were suggestions. Clearly they “do know much” and are confident that the pistons they include in the stroker setup will suffice.
“Also a 2.3 comes with a new crank. So you gonna have a new crank,rods and stock pistons?LOL”
This is a 2.3 stroker, which means the pistons are oversized from stock considering the displacement has changed. Normally it is not a “New” crank with the stroker short blocks. They resurface the crank from the core you leave them with, when that allows, which in my case did not.
“You obviously dont know much.”
With such limited information you “obviously” were quick to judge. What you should have done was a little research and had your facts straight BEFORE you posted anything on this thread, so that you may appear the slightest bit as knowledgable as you like to think you are.
“Upgrade the rods and crank for starters? Well first off why would you touch all that and not the pistons,lol? “
Oliver Rods and Knife Edge crank are both upgrades from the base Stroker setup.
In the discussions with AMS these were suggestions. Clearly they “do know much” and are confident that the pistons they include in the stroker setup will suffice.
“Also a 2.3 comes with a new crank. So you gonna have a new crank,rods and stock pistons?LOL”
This is a 2.3 stroker, which means the pistons are oversized from stock considering the displacement has changed. Normally it is not a “New” crank with the stroker short blocks. They resurface the crank from the core you leave them with, when that allows, which in my case did not.
“You obviously dont know much.”
With such limited information you “obviously” were quick to judge. What you should have done was a little research and had your facts straight BEFORE you posted anything on this thread, so that you may appear the slightest bit as knowledgable as you like to think you are.
They can not resurface the crank from your core and use it for a stroker. The stock crank is 88 mm and the stroker crank is 100 mm.
Stroker pistons are not necessarily larger than stock in bore, and are often smaller than stock as far as height is concerned. The extra displacement is gained from an increased stroke (hence the "stroker" name), not from larger pistons.
-Paul
Well oil was really low and car started knockin. So I had it towed to AMS and I got the official call today.
One of the Rod bearings were in the oil pan and the crank is shot.
I am upgrading to their stroker motor.
Anyone out there that has the AMS stroker got any tips or opinions?
probably upgrade the crank and rods for starters.
One of the Rod bearings were in the oil pan and the crank is shot.
I am upgrading to their stroker motor.
Anyone out there that has the AMS stroker got any tips or opinions?
probably upgrade the crank and rods for starters.
This is a 2.3 stroker, which means the pistons are oversized from stock considering the displacement has changed.
With such limited information you “obviously” were quick to judge. What you should have done was a little research and had your facts straight BEFORE you posted anything on this thread, so that you may appear the slightest bit as knowledgable as you like to think you are.
With such limited information you “obviously” were quick to judge. What you should have done was a little research and had your facts straight BEFORE you posted anything on this thread, so that you may appear the slightest bit as knowledgable as you like to think you are.
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From: In the Middle of Everywhere
Just to straighten out some of what you posted here:
They can not resurface the crank from your core and use it for a stroker. The stock crank is 88 mm and the stroker crank is 100 mm.
Stroker pistons are not necessarily larger than stock in bore, and are often smaller than stock as far as height is concerned. The extra displacement is gained from an increased stroke (hence the "stroker" name), not from larger pistons.
-Paul
They can not resurface the crank from your core and use it for a stroker. The stock crank is 88 mm and the stroker crank is 100 mm.
Stroker pistons are not necessarily larger than stock in bore, and are often smaller than stock as far as height is concerned. The extra displacement is gained from an increased stroke (hence the "stroker" name), not from larger pistons.
-Paul
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From: In the Middle of Everywhere
The crank IS in fact new with the short block as someone brought up. The pistons are Ross Racing Pistons.
Made some decisions.
Decided on:
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2.3 Stroker
Oliver Rods
Pro Break In Service.
AMS/TMS T1 Headstuds
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Leaving the stock turbo for now. Future 35R, AMS FMIC, Fuel Rail, Injectors, Wideband... Tryin to keep this under $10k!
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So my debate is cams + dual springs. (together is about another $1k) but since its all apart I save about $300 in labor. With the stock turbo I will be losing a little. Leaning toward goin without for now. Right now I am roughly at $7500.
Made some decisions.
Decided on:
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2.3 Stroker
Oliver Rods
Pro Break In Service.
AMS/TMS T1 Headstuds
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Leaving the stock turbo for now. Future 35R, AMS FMIC, Fuel Rail, Injectors, Wideband... Tryin to keep this under $10k!
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So my debate is cams + dual springs. (together is about another $1k) but since its all apart I save about $300 in labor. With the stock turbo I will be losing a little. Leaning toward goin without for now. Right now I am roughly at $7500.
if your thinking of cams, now is the best time to be doing it.....
would also be nice since everything else will be breaking in together at the same time as well.....
Roll with it, you know you wanna........
would also be nice since everything else will be breaking in together at the same time as well.....
Roll with it, you know you wanna........
Excessive oil changes, (Mobil 1) has HARSH detergents and should NOT be changed as often as the conventional oils. the 3K mile oil change stuff was great for cars in the 1970's. Porsches from the factory use Mobil 1 like we do, but they recommend their first oil change at 15,000 miles!!! Harsh detergents can't be that good for any motor.
Mitsu, and "jiffy lubes" love the 3K oil change interval why???? MONEY for them. Sorry to jack the thread. Rant over. LOL.
Mitsu, and "jiffy lubes" love the 3K oil change interval why???? MONEY for them. Sorry to jack the thread. Rant over. LOL.
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From: In the Middle of Everywhere
2-3 weeks depending on the break in period. There are like 5-6 cars getting, or scheduled to get broken in during this time frame apparently.
Do I really need the pro break in? I assume that means they make tweaks here and there when they notice room for improvement.
Do I really need the pro break in? I assume that means they make tweaks here and there when they notice room for improvement.





