Almost rear ended, by ANOTHER EVO!
Whatever the OP did or didn't do can be called irresponsible, but I will say this, an off duty cop in an evo has no business riding bumpers or instigating high speed or any such nonsense. Cops think that because they have a badge they can screw with whomever they choose on or off duty and that's just wrong. It's an abuse of power that is inherent in the all mighty police mindset. The off duty cops think that they totally bagged this evo driver cause he had no idea that they in fact could pull this guy over and ruin his life. Cops with big egos are the most disgusting dispicible creatures on this planet and ruin the reputation of good cops who actually want to make a real difference and not taunt people driving. From my personal experience cops with fast cars drive them just as fast as us regular folk the only difference is that they'll never catch hell for it
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Hard to say who is is the wrong here. Sounds like the cop pulled arround the other cop to test you. As far as gassing it goes, you knew there was atleast 1 cop behind you so that was prestty dumb even if it was only a little bit. It sounds to me like the cop in the evo was way too close even to pace & get a license #. As far as the brake check thing goes, it was a thought & nothing more. Everyone has evil thoughts when they believe someone is being a dic to them. Atlest they were not acted on. Had he brake checked he would have needed to slam the brakes hard to actually hurt someone, so all the complaints of hurting someone are pretty lame. It would have been a horrible idea in this case though. If I am ever tailgated by an ***hole for no reaon I just let off the gas untill I slow down enough to **** them off & go arround. As far as the cops go it doesn't seem they did anything wrong other than possibly pacing too close & don't forget they did leave you alone & let you go. Just replay the situation over replacing the EVO & unmarked car with 2 police cars. I bet things you would have done things diffrent & would have smiled when the cop turned off from behind you.
Most srt-4 owners drive like they have a stick up their a$$ and feel inferior to evo owners hence why they have to drive like a a-hole on the road.
How did it feel once you moved to the dark side and removed that stick???........j/k
How did it feel once you moved to the dark side and removed that stick???........j/k
Last edited by DSMEVOLUTION; Nov 25, 2007 at 01:31 PM.
So how am I the @sshole of choice? When in fact, it seems your friend could've stayed in his lane and not came into mine and rode my rear end. Secondly to the guys just saying your stupid for speeding... I was going 45 max, and the speed limit was 30mph... so don't tell me that you guys that have critisized have never sped once in your car. I didn't or don't hear all this whining about speeding when AMS posted up their drag car @40psi on the streets during the day and night.. but I'm sure they didn't speed.. even though in the same video there's a race to show the power difference between their Evo and a 400whp Gallant. Also, even I see Mellon posting video's on streetfire.net... There's guys on here saying they raced so and so, to nearly TRIPLE the speeds I was going and you want to flame me for going a massive 45mph at most!... And also, did I ever say that I DID brake check the other EVO... no I didn't, I said the thought popped in my head to but I didn't act on it, because that would've been stupid for me to do.
So here's the cliff notes for the people just skipping to the end, without reading the thread first..
I saw and off duty cop pull out of a police station, officer followed to a stop light.. I looked in my rear view to notice another evo behind the officer.. Evo pulls around officer.. We play to a max 4500rpm in 1st gear, come to a stop light.. I look over to give a
to the other driver for having a nice car, but couldn't see him due to the front windows being tinted (ILLEGAL IN ILLINIOS) drove easy for the next two stop lights, light went green on a light I hit it at 15mph, shifted into second and shut it down and coasted.. at most 45mph... other evo must not have liked it, turned into my lane and proceeded to my rear bumper @ WOT, slams on his brakes.. so close I can't see his headlights nore hood anymore, and proceeds to follow me like this aprox. 1/8mile.. then other evo turns off.
And just to add I have only once gotten a speeding ticket which was nearly 4 years ago in my old Probe GT on a back road in Ohio going to my brothers graduation party. So that being 4 years ago, which makes me 21 back then.. and now 25.. I think by now I'm not one of those punk kid that drives like a d*ck because he has a quick car..
Also Mods.. can this thread be locked, because it seems to be creating more pissing and moaning than other's experiences
So here's the cliff notes for the people just skipping to the end, without reading the thread first..
I saw and off duty cop pull out of a police station, officer followed to a stop light.. I looked in my rear view to notice another evo behind the officer.. Evo pulls around officer.. We play to a max 4500rpm in 1st gear, come to a stop light.. I look over to give a
to the other driver for having a nice car, but couldn't see him due to the front windows being tinted (ILLEGAL IN ILLINIOS) drove easy for the next two stop lights, light went green on a light I hit it at 15mph, shifted into second and shut it down and coasted.. at most 45mph... other evo must not have liked it, turned into my lane and proceeded to my rear bumper @ WOT, slams on his brakes.. so close I can't see his headlights nore hood anymore, and proceeds to follow me like this aprox. 1/8mile.. then other evo turns off.And just to add I have only once gotten a speeding ticket which was nearly 4 years ago in my old Probe GT on a back road in Ohio going to my brothers graduation party. So that being 4 years ago, which makes me 21 back then.. and now 25.. I think by now I'm not one of those punk kid that drives like a d*ck because he has a quick car..
Also Mods.. can this thread be locked, because it seems to be creating more pissing and moaning than other's experiences
If that came down to anyone else...and or a different vehicle you were driving...guess where you would have been that night? Consider that a wake up call and act your age without pointing the fingers at others and their driving habits...It only takes one to break the law and even just catching only one means a job is being done...Another issue that you are not aware of...I realize the fact that a "thought" came to the little head of yours to "brake check" to get someone off your tail...Given different circumstances in terms who was actually behind you
(you woulndn't want to know what would have happend if you actually did that on that particular night to whom was behind you...)...but the same scenario...say you did brake check someone and they hit you...Given the circumstances...ie time of day traffic level...You would be liable for the collision that might have occured by a brake check...WHY? Because at that time its night-time...traffic level is NONE...two lane street...You could have simply moved to another lane or slow down naturally and let the person tailing you pass you to avoid a potential hazzard...BUT instead your actions caused the collision...meaning you are liable for all damages...hospital bills...law suits...death...etc...ask any insurance company given your insurance agent is in the know on ALL updated policies...BTW: this is a very common form of insurance fraud...but lets stay on topic...All in all you got off without any repercussions...even though you were clearly at fault on more than one instance...
For the select few of you that say COPS are on a power trip in this situation...guess again...pacing someone was to be sure of the speed limit of the perpetrator...AND in fact it was over the 1/2 posted speed limit giving that grounds for incarceration and vehicle confinement. However was this the case? NO!...Should have been since the OP doesn't quite realize the consequences of their actions...
P.S. Federal vehicles are tinted...undercover vehicles are tinted...if you would have allowed the 04 eVo to pass you'd see the police memorial plates in the back...I guess now would be the time to change your mind about running into those two eVo's as you mentioned before...I take it...
Whatever the OP did or didn't do can be called irresponsible, but I will say this, an off duty cop in an evo has no business riding bumpers or instigating high speed or any such nonsense. Cops think that because they have a badge they can screw with whomever they choose on or off duty and that's just wrong. It's an abuse of power that is inherent in the all mighty police mindset. The off duty cops think that they totally bagged this evo driver cause he had no idea that they in fact could pull this guy over and ruin his life. Cops with big egos are the most disgusting dispicible creatures on this planet and ruin the reputation of good cops who actually want to make a real difference and not taunt people driving. From my personal experience cops with fast cars drive them just as fast as us regular folk the only difference is that they'll never catch hell for it
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yeah I said
at the same time arresting scumbags promoting prostitution who moreover than not lead into murder cases...RAPE yeah that's right a hooker can get raped...is a plus in the my book as well as others on here regardless if it was COP instigated or not...In the OP case...at least nobody was injured due to street-racing...so many of these cases occur each day...at the end of the day an arrest can save a life...certain people will ONLY learn from their mistakes and if it can be stopped...trust me it will...Response to the italics: There was no taunting...the 04 eVo was behind the police cruiser at the light where it could have been reving its engine right next to the OP...the 04 eVo stayed back while the OP sped off...then was paced to be certain of the actual speed since its not radar equipts...and honstly do you think another officer would have not clocked the OP somewhere down the line? Must have been his B-Day...
Response to underline: perks come with the job...
Here is what you don't know obviously...just going 45MPH in a CITY 30MPH zone is considered reckless driving...PERIOD...After all you are going 1/2 over the posted speed limit! You get your vehicle towed no questions asked...its NOT the same as going 15MPH over the speed limit...GET IT...Same thing if you are going in a residential 10-20MPH zone and you're doing 25-35MPH...SAME THING...Why you might ask...SAFETY especially in high traffic or residential areas. TWO vehicles traveling at the same speed over the posted speed limit is considred street racing...NOT speeding...think about this...when do the cops come out? And you're speeding during that time...?!?! If that came down to anyone else...and or a different vehicle you were driving...guess where you would have been that night? Consider that a wake up call and act your age without pointing the fingers at others and their driving habits...It only takes one to break the law and even just catching only one means a job is being done...
Another issue that you are not aware of...I realize the fact that a "thought" came to the little head of yours to "brake check" to get someone off your tail...Given different circumstances in terms who was actually behind you (you woulndn't want to know what would have happend if you actually did that on that particular night to whom was behind you...)...but the same scenario...say you did brake check someone and they hit you...Given the circumstances...ie time of day traffic level...You would be liable for the collision that might have occured by a brake check...WHY? Because at that time its night-time...traffic level is NONE...two lane street...You could have simply moved to another lane or slow down naturally and let the person tailing you pass you to avoid a potential hazzard...BUT instead your actions caused the collision...meaning you are liable for all damages...hospital bills...law suits...death...etc...ask any insurance company given your insurance agent is in the know on ALL updated policies...BTW: this is a very common form of insurance fraud...but lets stay on topic...
All in all you got off without any repercussions...even though you were clearly at fault on more than one instance...
For the select few of you that say COPS are on a power trip in this situation...guess again...pacing someone was to be sure of the speed limit of the perpetrator...AND in fact it was over the 1/2 posted speed limit giving that grounds for incarceration and vehicle confinement. However was this the case? NO!...Should have been since the OP doesn't quite realize the consequences of their actions...
P.S. Federal vehicles are tinted...undercover vehicles are tinted...if you would have allowed the 04 eVo to pass you'd see the police memorial plates in the back...I guess now would be the time to change your mind about running into those two eVo's as you mentioned before...I take it...
If that came down to anyone else...and or a different vehicle you were driving...guess where you would have been that night? Consider that a wake up call and act your age without pointing the fingers at others and their driving habits...It only takes one to break the law and even just catching only one means a job is being done...Another issue that you are not aware of...I realize the fact that a "thought" came to the little head of yours to "brake check" to get someone off your tail...Given different circumstances in terms who was actually behind you
(you woulndn't want to know what would have happend if you actually did that on that particular night to whom was behind you...)...but the same scenario...say you did brake check someone and they hit you...Given the circumstances...ie time of day traffic level...You would be liable for the collision that might have occured by a brake check...WHY? Because at that time its night-time...traffic level is NONE...two lane street...You could have simply moved to another lane or slow down naturally and let the person tailing you pass you to avoid a potential hazzard...BUT instead your actions caused the collision...meaning you are liable for all damages...hospital bills...law suits...death...etc...ask any insurance company given your insurance agent is in the know on ALL updated policies...BTW: this is a very common form of insurance fraud...but lets stay on topic...All in all you got off without any repercussions...even though you were clearly at fault on more than one instance...
For the select few of you that say COPS are on a power trip in this situation...guess again...pacing someone was to be sure of the speed limit of the perpetrator...AND in fact it was over the 1/2 posted speed limit giving that grounds for incarceration and vehicle confinement. However was this the case? NO!...Should have been since the OP doesn't quite realize the consequences of their actions...
P.S. Federal vehicles are tinted...undercover vehicles are tinted...if you would have allowed the 04 eVo to pass you'd see the police memorial plates in the back...I guess now would be the time to change your mind about running into those two eVo's as you mentioned before...I take it...
I'm not saying the OP is correct, but I will say that tail-gating is very dangerous regardless of who is doing it. If I am driving along and a marked squad car starts tailgating me so closely that I can not see it's headlights, my first reaction is to call 911. If your primary concern truly is safety, you wouldn't make a dangerous situation worse by tailgating. I get frustrated when I see police officers performing dangerous acts and justifying it by saying they were trying to keep the roads safe.
-Paul
This is why I think so little of cops. Simply because of this fool, the cop, that keeps on posting on this thread. Chicago’s finest? a joke indeed my good sir. Yeah blah blah bash me, go ahead ban me. But seriously, im going to voice my opinion. Instead of arguing on these forums and picking on people going 45 mph on an empty road while trying to provoke them so you can make an arrest, why don’t you go ahead and get drugs off the streets and prevent a murder? Are you completey incapable of that? For this you're going to pick on someone driving home from work? You were probably one of those kids in school that bullied everyone around and could never mount to anything. Of course you couldn’t go to a four year college or even an institution. That is when you decided to assume the role of what you could do best. Which is bully people around. No you don’t prevent murders nor do you solve them. Instead, you go around being a bully and abusing your power. To think we waste our tax money on you fools. Is it not illegal for you to do what you did? What if a higher power were to see this thread? Why are you threatening the man for saying what was on his mind. He insisted that he could’ve brake checked you, but he didn’t. It was just a thought...So now you have the right to threaten someone because they were thinking something? There was no intent there, nor can it be proven. Please sir don’t harass me for stating the truth.
Last edited by myev0sneezes; Nov 25, 2007 at 04:08 PM.
You honestly come off as a bit of an a-hole in this post. Although you may think you are correct on the laws, you are not. Two vehicles speeding side by side is not street racing. There is a long list of criteria that can be considered street racing, but your criteria is not one of them. Unfortunately, this does not keep an officer from citing someone with street racing in this situation. It does keep a judge from upholding the citation. Also, any half-way decent lawyer would be able to get a reckless driving ticket for 45 in a 30 thrown out. There is no law in IL that states 1/2 over the speed limit is reckless.
I'm not saying the OP is correct, but I will say that tail-gating is very dangerous regardless of who is doing it. If I am driving along and a marked squad car starts tailgating me so closely that I can not see it's headlights, my first reaction is to call 911. If your primary concern truly is safety, you wouldn't make a dangerous situation worse by tailgating. I get frustrated when I see police officers performing dangerous acts and justifying it by saying they were trying to keep the roads safe.
-Paul
I'm not saying the OP is correct, but I will say that tail-gating is very dangerous regardless of who is doing it. If I am driving along and a marked squad car starts tailgating me so closely that I can not see it's headlights, my first reaction is to call 911. If your primary concern truly is safety, you wouldn't make a dangerous situation worse by tailgating. I get frustrated when I see police officers performing dangerous acts and justifying it by saying they were trying to keep the roads safe.
-Paul
...next time maybe the police should do their job
...There's certin things people are not aware of as in this case...You don't have to double the speed limit to be charged with reckless driving...especially NOT in a city...PERIOD...Getting up to the speed limit for example you could be charged with reckless driving if you peel out or screetch your tires...If the complaining officer shows up in court...it really doesn't matter if Johnny Cochren is your lawyer...The officer was there...the lawyer was not...PERIOD...Reason why such citations are dropped in court is because officers don't want to waste their time...,however, if you make a memorable impression on an officer...you best believe it they'll make it their priority NOT to miss the court date...either way the defendent will remember and hopefully learn a lesson rather it is a monetary less due to fines or even worse...Anyone can get pulled over at any time as long as there is a reasonable cause...from expired sticker on plates...to brake lights being out...to simply not belonging in a particular neighborhood...(you'd be surprised by what you find when the little things such as that are the cause of one being pulled over.) Most common...drunk drivers...drug traffickers...
You know you're getting pulled over once a cop tailgates you as they are running your plates...etc...etc...looking for a reason to stop and talk to you...might as well turn to the side and be nice...
Paul...you tell me then what is considred street racing...? So what do you call two vehicles driving over the posted speed limit? A sunday cruise to the park? Tell that to an officer who pulls you over next time what their job entails and see where you end up...and or how you get treated...Its still mind blowing that the OP tries to justify the situation...So whose really the the a$$hole here?...next time maybe the police should do their job ...There's certin things people are not aware of as in this case...You don't have to double the speed limit to be charged with reckless driving...especially NOT in a city...PERIOD...Getting up to the speed limit for example you could be charged with reckless driving if you peel out or screetch your tires...If the complaining officer shows up in court...it really doesn't matter if Johnny Cochren is your lawyer...The officer was there...the lawyer was not...PERIOD...Reason why such citations are dropped in court is because officers don't want to waste their time...,however, if you make a memorable impression on an officer...you best believe it they'll make it their priority NOT to miss the court date...either way the defendent will remember and hopefully learn a lesson rather it is a monetary less due to fines or even worse...
Anyone can get pulled over at any time as long as there is a reasonable cause...from expired sticker on plates...to brake lights being out...to simply not belonging in a particular neighborhood...(you'd be surprised by what you find when the little things such as that are the cause of one being pulled over.) Most common...drunk drivers...drug traffickers...
You know you're getting pulled over once a cop tailgates you as they are running your plates...etc...etc...looking for a reason to stop and talk to you...might as well turn to the side and be nice...
...next time maybe the police should do their job ...There's certin things people are not aware of as in this case...You don't have to double the speed limit to be charged with reckless driving...especially NOT in a city...PERIOD...Getting up to the speed limit for example you could be charged with reckless driving if you peel out or screetch your tires...If the complaining officer shows up in court...it really doesn't matter if Johnny Cochren is your lawyer...The officer was there...the lawyer was not...PERIOD...Reason why such citations are dropped in court is because officers don't want to waste their time...,however, if you make a memorable impression on an officer...you best believe it they'll make it their priority NOT to miss the court date...either way the defendent will remember and hopefully learn a lesson rather it is a monetary less due to fines or even worse...Anyone can get pulled over at any time as long as there is a reasonable cause...from expired sticker on plates...to brake lights being out...to simply not belonging in a particular neighborhood...(you'd be surprised by what you find when the little things such as that are the cause of one being pulled over.) Most common...drunk drivers...drug traffickers...
You know you're getting pulled over once a cop tailgates you as they are running your plates...etc...etc...looking for a reason to stop and talk to you...might as well turn to the side and be nice...
-Paul