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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sabastian458
I had the same issues at a Dyno Day this spring. It turned out that there were 2 issues. 1) I had bent valves, screwing with my psi build up, 2) the spring in the wastegate was rated between 21-25 psi.
Other than that, I really havent had any problems out of their parts.
Do you mean that you bent your valves in your head due to PSI build up? Or valves in the WGA?
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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The engine valves were bent in an unrelated incident, they were causing my irratice pressure readings. (either 16psi or 25psi nothing between) I was unable to control boost with my MBC.
Replaced the valves and all was fixed.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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what kind of spring did u get for it? Check the preload bruthaman. run it without an mbc and see how much boost you get.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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First and formost... improper adjustment, or using a spring rate too high for your intended purpose can do just that. Make sure you have the preload properly adjusted, and find out what color spring you are running.

I've found the guys at Forge to be very helpful and understanding. When dealing with an angry, frustrated customer, basic human nature can take over no matter how professional someone tries to be. Customer service is helping the customer... NOT being abused by them. Step back, breath, and try again. I've even had true to life axe murderers succumb to my "niceness" when I should have been anything but (don't ask, I work for an Elected Official). Get my drift? The easiest way to make people do what you want, is to have them WANT to!

FWIW... the worst place in the world for average Joe to try had have a problem diagnosed is on the dyno, with the clock ticking, and others in line behind you.

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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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well i bypassed the boost controler just to run of off wasegate pressure,and i tried to adjust the arm tighter and looser no matter what i do i cant control boost,it will boost 16 17 pounds then it will got to 28 29 and it constantly does this,as far as my valves being bent i doubt thats the problem just had my motor built 5,000 miles ago..i am a little fustrated as you can tell lol im going to order the force performace wga tommorow

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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dapper Dan
are you sure you just dont have too much pre-load on the wastegate?
well i adjusted it many diffrenet ways whats happening now is say on a third gear pull it will boost 17 18 pounds then ill do it agian and it will boost 28 29 pounds and it contiues to do this never steady boost...all over the place and this is off of wg pressure
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeus
First and formost... improper adjustment, or using a spring rate too high for your intended purpose can do just that. Make sure you have the preload properly adjusted, and find out what color spring you are running.

I've found the guys at Forge to be very helpful and understanding. When dealing with an angry, frustrated customer, basic human nature can take over no matter how professional someone tries to be. Customer service is helping the customer... NOT being abused by them. Step back, breath, and try again. I've even had true to life axe murderers succumb to my "niceness" when I should have been anything but (don't ask, I work for an Elected Official). Get my drift? The easiest way to make people do what you want, is to have them WANT to!

FWIW... the worst place in the world for average Joe to try had have a problem diagnosed is on the dyno, with the clock ticking, and others in line behind you.
ya bro when i called them i was calm as could be like i usually am with people,just getting frustrated now i tried to adjust it many ways actually i did not top level performance did....they bypassed the boost controller and the boost is never steady no matter what one sec 18 19 psi the ill do another pull27 28 psi like the wga is getting stuck open or closed...we also did a pressure test ,checked the plugs,compression test,diffrrent boost controller i even tried a diffrent mass air....wich i know would not affect boost but just to try everything,and my idle got much better lol and throttle response but i cant controler boost...
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cfdfireman1
What kind of turbo are you running? How much pre-load is on the wastegate?
im running a white rabbit tme turbo with a 10.5 hotside and works o2 housing 16g
not very much pre-load the bucle fit easy over the flapper....is it possible to break on of these things installing it?because i think it's broke.......
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 12:52 AM
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sounds like it's time to put the stock WGA back on to test it
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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I would first try to pump a little air into the valve and make sure it opens and closes smoothly. A bike pump will work great, make sure there is no binding between the actuator arm and the eye that goes on it. FP has a "how to" on there web-site for adjusting the WGA that may help you out. Looking at those picture it looks like you may need to bend the rod a bit to get it straigt and moving freely a little anti-seize works wonders.

Standard setting http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...td-setting.mpg



High setting http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...gh-setting.mpg

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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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I experienced the same sort of thing while trying to adjust my stock WGA. Turns out I had it turned out too far (made the actuator rod too long) I hope that helps a little.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cfdfireman1
I would first try to pump a little air into the valve and make sure it opens and closes smoothly. A bike pump will work great, make sure there is no binding between the actuator arm and the eye that goes on it. FP has a "how to" on there web-site for adjusting the WGA that may help you out. Looking at those picture it looks like you may need to bend the rod a bit to get it straigt and moving freely a little anti-seize works wonders.

Standard setting http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...td-setting.mpg



High setting http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...gh-setting.mpg
i think you are wright about the rod being bent but im sending it back to forge to get a new one....
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bluebyu36
i think you are wright about the rod being bent but im sending it back to forge to get a new one....
The WGA doesn't really do much as long as it holds air and the end doesn't bind you should be good. There's nothing wrong with bending the rod a small amount to make the arm move freely.
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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this wga is broke, to that crap off my car and put a force performance one on and now it's perfect thanks for your help fellas...im never buying a forge product agian garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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